Sunday, August 10, 2025

Q&A on the Ten Commandments Examining SDA Teachings in Light of Scripture

Refuting the SDA “Heavenly Trio” — Why It’s Not the Biblical Trinity



The SDA “Heavenly Trio” teaching (3 distinct eternal beings, united only in purpose, love, and work) is dangerously close to tritheism — the belief in three separate gods — rather than the One God in three Persons revealed in Scripture.

1. The Biblical Trinity: One Being, Three Persons

From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible affirms there is only one God (Deut. 6:4; Isa. 45:5-6), yet this one God exists eternally as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14).

  • One Being — “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one” (Deut. 6:4, CSB).

  • Three Persons — At Jesus’ baptism, the Father speaks, the Son is baptized, and the Spirit descends (Matt. 3:16-17).

  • Same essence/substance — John 10:30: “I and the Father are one.” The Greek word hen here means one in essence, not just one in purpose.

2. Why the “Heavenly Trio” Is Not the Same

The SDA Pioneer view reduces the unity of God to agreement in purpose, not unity of nature. This makes each Person an independent God-being, which historically is tritheism, condemned by the early church.

  • The Nicene Creed (AD 325) and Athanasian Creed were not man-made inventions but biblical summaries against heresies like Arianism and tritheism.

  • By contrast, the “Heavenly Trio” model has no roots in historic Christianity — it comes from early SDA pioneers influenced by semi-Arianism.

3. Pastor Ronald Obidos on Matthew 28:18

In SDA Answered Verse by Verse, Pastor Ronald Obidos writes on Matthew 28:18-19:

"If SDAs were truly Trinitarians, they would affirm not only the three names but also the one divine essence of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Instead, the SDA pioneers taught three separate divine beings — a position rejected by the historic Christian church as tritheism. The baptismal formula given by Christ is rooted in the unity of the one Name (singular) shared by the three Persons."

Here, the singular “in the name” (ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι) in Matthew 28:19 shows one divine identity, not three separate beings.

4. Reliable Church History

The early church fathers defended the Trinity because it was the teaching of Scripture:

  • Athanasius: "We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance."

  • Tertullian (AD 200): Coined the term Trinitas to express the biblical truth of one essence, three persons.

No credible Christian tradition in the first 18 centuries taught the “three heavenly beings” model the SDA pioneers propose.

5. Conclusion

The SDA “Heavenly Trio” is not the biblical Trinity.

It is a repackaged form of semi-Arian tritheism that denies the oneness of God’s essence. The Bible teaches One God in Three Co-eternal Persons, perfectly united in being, power, and glory.

True Trinity = One Divine Being, Three Persons.

SDA Heavenly Trio = Three Divine Beings, One Purpose (Tritheism).

Rejecting the biblical Trinity is not a minor doctrinal difference — it is a departure from the historic Christian faith and a distortion of who God truly is.


True Trinity vs SDA Heavenly Trio

Category Biblical Trinity (Creedal View) SDA “Heavenly Trio” (Pioneer View)
Nature of God One Divine Being in Three Co-eternal Persons — same essence (homoousios) Three Distinct Eternal Beings — united only in purpose and mission
Biblical Basis Deut. 6:4; Matt. 28:19; John 10:30; 2 Cor. 13:14 No direct biblical verse teaches “three beings”; concept drawn from selective EGW quotes and pioneer writings
Unity Unity of being and essence (hen = one in substance, John 10:30) Unity of purpose, love, and work, not essence
Historic Roots Affirmed by early church councils: Nicene (AD 325), Constantinople (AD 381), Athanasius, Tertullian Originated with early SDA pioneers (James White, Joseph Bates, Uriah Smith) who rejected Nicene orthodoxy
Essence of God One divine nature shared equally by Father, Son, and Holy Spirit Three separate divine beings, each fully God individually
Risk of Error Maintains biblical monotheism while affirming three Persons Tends toward tritheism (belief in three Gods)
Matthew 28:19 Meaning “In the name (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” — one divine identity “In the names (plural in concept) of three beings” — undermines singular divine identity
Salvation Implication One God acts in unity: Father plans, Son redeems, Spirit sanctifies Three gods cooperating — a diminished biblical view of God
Pastor Ronald Obidos (SDA Answered v. by v.) "The singular ‘name’ in Matthew 28:19 affirms one divine essence shared by three Persons — historic Christianity rejects the SDA trio as tritheistic." Admits separation of divine essence — closer to Mormonism than to historic Christian faith

Key Takeaway

  • True Trinity = One God in Three Persons — biblical, historical, orthodox.

  • SDA Heavenly Trio = Three separate Gods in cooperation — unbiblical, historically condemned as tritheism.


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Revelation 4–11: The Throne, the Scroll, and the Covenant Judgment: A Former Adventists Philippines Perspective

 


When you read Revelation 4 through 11, it feels like you’re stepping into a cosmic movie—throne rooms, scrolls, trumpets, earthquakes, and strange beasts. But the Former Adventists Philippines (FAP) approach this section through the partial preterist lens, meaning they believe most of it was fulfilled in the first century, specifically in the events leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. The “Great White Throne” style judgment scenes and lake-of-fire imagery aren’t about some far-off doomsday, but about the covenantal courtroom where God judged apostate Israel and vindicated His New Covenant people.

Revelation 4–5, the scene shifts to the heavenly throne room where God holds a sealed scroll (Rev. 5:1). This scroll, FAP teaches, represents the covenant lawsuit against Israel—a concept straight out of the Old Testament prophets like Isaiah and Ezekiel. The Lamb (Jesus) is the only one worthy to open it, showing that He alone has the authority to execute covenant judgment (John 5:22). This ties directly to Psalm 110:1–2, where the Messiah rules in the midst of His enemies. The seals opened in chapters 6–8 portray the progressive judgments (war, famine, pestilence) that Jesus predicted in Matthew 24:6–8 as signs before Jerusalem’s fall.

By the time we reach the trumpet judgments in Revelation 8–11, the focus tightens on Jerusalem itself. Trumpets in the Bible are often tied to warnings and battle announcements (Numbers 10:9–10; Joel 2:1). The fifth trumpet’s “locust army” (Rev. 9:1–11) mirrors Old Testament descriptions of invading forces (Joel 1–2) and is seen by FAP as symbolic of the Roman siege. The seventh trumpet (Rev. 11:15) announces, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ,” which FAP sees as the public enthronement of Jesus after judging the Old Covenant order. This is a Great White Throne moment—not the final end-of-history judgment, but a decisive ruling in history where God vindicates His people and condemns His enemies.

Now, you might wonder—how does the lake of fire fit in here when it isn’t mentioned explicitly until Revelation 20? FAP teaches that the lake of fire is a symbolic destination for all covenant breakers in any age, but its first-century fulfillment was seen in the destruction of Jerusalem, which Jesus Himself compared to Gehenna (Matt. 23:33; Mark 9:43–48). The trumpet and bowl judgments of Revelation are precursors to that covenantal “second death” imagery. Theologians pointed out that apocalyptic writing layers visions so later images (like the lake of fire) interpret earlier visions (like the destruction of “Babylon,” which FAP identifies with Jerusalem).

Finally, the two witnesses in Revelation 11, who are killed and then vindicated, serve as a microcosm of this whole judgment cycle. They represent the prophetic witness of the church and faithful believers before 70 A.D., whose deaths at the hands of the beast-like Jerusalem leadership are followed by resurrection and vindication. The Great White Throne courtroom scene later in the book is essentially the same covenantal verdict seen here—those written in the Book of Life stand, and those outside face the second death. For FAP, this isn’t just an ancient history lesson; it’s proof that Jesus rules now, that His judgments are just, and that His people can trust Him even when surrounded by opposition.


Reference:

Milton S. Terry, Biblical Hermeneutics (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1890)

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Why the SDA “National Sunday Law” Will Be the Second Great Disappointment? (Pope + Protestant America = Another False Alarm!)


Intro

If you’ve been in the SDA church for any length of time, you’ve probably heard this over and over:

  • The Pope and the United States will unite to pass a National Sunday Law.
  • That law will force everyone to worship on Sunday.\
  • If you refuse, you won’t be able to buy or sell, and you’ll be persecuted.
  • The “faithful remnant” will be the Seventh-day Adventists.
That’s the story in countless SDA prophecy seminars. It’s presented as the grand finale of Bible prophecy. And for decades, Adventists have been on high alert waiting for it to happen.

The problem? When you really look at history, the Bible, and the world we live in today, this “Sunday law” theory is not only unlikely—it’s setting the SDA church up for another Great Disappointment just like 1844.

The First Great Disappointment (1844)
 
  • October 22, 1844 — Millerites predicted Jesus would return.
  • Nothing happened.
  • Many left the movement, others tried to find a “new explanation” to save the prophecy (that’s how the Investigative Judgment doctrine was born).
The lesson? When you use bad interpretation and force Bible prophecy into a timeline it doesn’t give, you end up in disappointment.

Why the Sunday Law Theory is Headed for the Same Fate?

1. It’s based on a flawed way of reading the Bible
  • SDA prophecy teachers read Revelation 13 and Daniel 7 through an anti-Catholic lens from the 1800s.
  • Yes, the papacy had huge political-religious power in medieval Europe.
  • But they assume history must repeat exactly the same way in modern America—even though the Bible doesn’t give a prophecy about a future “Sunday law.”

2. It misrepresents the “Mark of the Beast”
  • In Scripture, the “mark” is about allegiance, not the day you worship.
  • From a historical view, the mark was tied to first-century Rome, not a modern worship-day law.
  • SDA teaching takes a symbol and turns it into a calendar regulation—something the New Testament never does.

3. It ignores how much the world has changed
  • The U.S. today is not “Protestant America” of the 1800s. It’s secular, pluralistic, and politically divided.
  • The idea that all of America (plus the Pope) will unite under one religious law is more fantasy than fact.

4. It’s politically unrealistic
  • Protestant denominations don’t follow one leader anymore.
  • Even within Catholic-Protestant dialogues, there’s no central political push for a worldwide Sunday worship law.

The Coming Second Great Disappointment

  • If the SDA church keeps promoting fear every time the Pope visits the U.S. or a climate document mentions “Sunday rest,” here’s what will happen:
  • Decades will pass… and nothing.
  • Young Adventists will start asking, “Is this all just hype?”
Just like in 1844, some will invent a new “explanation,” but many will quietly walk away.


Why It Matters

  • This kind of fear-driven prophecy teaching distracts from the real gospel.
  • Instead of pointing people to Christ and His finished work, it points them to a man-made conspiracy theory. The result? More fear, less freedom in Christ.

The Biblical Reality

  • Mark of the Beast = allegiance to an anti-gospel system, not Sunday laws.
  • Seal of God = the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14), not Sabbath-keeping.
  • The real “end-time test” is whether you trust Christ or something else for your salvation—not which day you rest.

Conclusion

Even if some kind of Sunday-related policy pops up someday, it won’t be the apocalyptic showdown the SDA church has imagined. When that becomes clear, it will be obvious—this was the Second Great Disappointment.

Sunday Law & Mark of the Beast — SDA View vs. Biblical View

Topic SDA Teaching Biblical / Historical View
Definition of the Mark of the Beast Worshiping on Sunday after the passing of a future National Sunday Law. Allegiance to an anti-gospel, idolatrous system (Revelation 13, 14). In a Partial Preterist context, it referred to loyalty to imperial Rome over Christ.
Who Enforces It The Pope (Roman Catholic Church) in alliance with Protestant America. In Revelation’s original setting: Roman political-religious authority of the first century. Today: any system or leader that demands allegiance over Christ.
Biblical Basis Claimed Revelation 13, Daniel 7, combined with Ellen G. White’s visions. Revelation’s imagery understood in historical and theological context shows no prediction of a future “Sunday worship law.”
Seal of God Keeping the 7th-day Sabbath. The indwelling Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14; 2 Corinthians 1:22), guaranteeing salvation.
Test of Loyalty Refusing to worship on Sunday after the law passes. Faith in Christ alone, demonstrated by obedience to His commands (John 14:15; 1 John 5:3) — not by adherence to Old Covenant sign laws.
Timing Still in the future — will happen before Jesus returns. Mostly fulfilled in the first century (Partial Preterist view), with ongoing relevance for resisting anti-gospel systems today.
Main Motivation Fear of persecution; readiness by keeping the right day. Confidence in Christ’s finished work and perseverance in gospel faith under any persecution.

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Saturday, August 9, 2025

FAP Sunday School Lesson for August 10, 2025, | Title: God Reigns Over All: Understanding His Sovereignty (Psalm 115:3)


Date: August 10, 2025, Sunday
Title: God Reigns Over All: Understanding His Sovereignty
Theme Verse:
“Our God is in heaven and does whatever he pleases.” – Psalm 115:3 (CSB)


Lesson Objective

To understand that God’s sovereignty means He has absolute authority over all creation, ordaining events in perfect wisdom — yet in a way that does not nullify genuine human free will. From the Biblical perspective, God’s sovereign will is compatible with His granting of prevenient grace, enabling sinners to respond freely to the Gospel.


Expanded Lesson Outline & Teacher’s Commentary

1. God’s Absolute Authority

Psalm 103:19; Isaiah 46:9–10

  • Exegesis: Psalm 103:19 declares that God’s throne is in the heavens, symbolizing not just location but unshakable dominion. Isaiah 46:9–10 shows God declaring “the end from the beginning,” meaning His purposes are never frustrated by man or devil.

  • Theological Clarification: Sovereignty is not merely that God can do all things; it’s that He has the right to do all things according to His will. His rule is not up for election, negotiation, or repeal.

  • Biblical Insight: God’s sovereignty is compatible with human responsibility because He ordains the possibility of choice through prevenient grace. His authority is not threatened by allowing real human decision.

  • Teacher’s Note: Emphasize that sovereignty is a comfort, not a threat. We don’t have a God who reacts — we have a God who reigns.


2. Providence and Control

Daniel 4:35; Acts 17:26; Job 42:2

  • Exegesis: In Daniel 4:35, Nebuchadnezzar learns the hard way that God rules over the kingdoms of men. The phrase “no one can block His hand” literally means no one can stop God mid-action.

  • Providence Defined: God’s active, ongoing control over creation, ensuring His purposes are accomplished in history and in our individual lives. Acts 17:26 affirms He has “determined allotted periods and the boundaries” of nations.

  • Biblical Insight: God’s control does not require Him to micro-manage every human thought as a deterministic puppet master. Rather, He directs history while allowing the genuine operation of human will, enabled by His grace.

  • Teacher’s Illustration: Think of a skilled chess master — the opponent is free to move any piece, but the master’s plan ensures the final victory.


3. Sovereignty & Goodness

Romans 8:28; Psalm 145:9

  • Exegesis: Romans 8:28 is not a blank check for all events to feel “good” — it means God weaves all events, even suffering and evil, into His redemptive purposes for those who love Him. Psalm 145:9 affirms that His compassion extends to all creation.

  • Common Misconception: Some think sovereignty means God is cold or arbitrary. But Scripture marries sovereignty with goodness — God’s rule is for our ultimate benefit, not for oppression.

  • Biblical Insight: God sovereignly chooses to offer salvation to all through Christ yet does not coerce faith. His goodness is shown in His universal call and genuine desire for all to be saved (1 Tim. 2:4).

  • Teacher’s Note: Drive home that sovereignty without goodness is tyranny, and goodness without sovereignty is helplessness — but in God, both meet perfectly.


4. Implications for Us

Proverbs 19:21; Ephesians 1:11

  • Trust – We rest knowing God’s plans will stand even when ours fail.

  • Worship – Recognizing God’s rule should ignite gratitude and awe.

  • Peace – God’s sovereignty eliminates the fear that life is random chaos.

  • Reject Fatalism – Biblical sovereignty never teaches, “What will be will be, so do nothing.” Instead, it motivates faithfulness because our labor is never in vain (1 Cor. 15:58).


Bible Commentary Notes

  • Psalm 115:3 – The Hebrew verb “pleases” (ḥāpaṣ) means God acts according to His delight and purpose, free from external control.

  • Daniel 4:35 – The Aramaic word for “do” (ʿăbēd) stresses God’s unhindered execution of His will — no one can restrain Him.

  • Ephesians 1:11 – God “works out everything” (energeō) according to the counsel of His will, showing intentionality, not randomness.


Supporting Verses for Study

  • Proverbs 19:21 – Many plans, but God’s purpose prevails.

  • Job 42:2 – No purpose of God can be thwarted.

  • Acts 17:26 – God’s hand in history and nations.

  • 1 Timothy 2:4 – God’s universal salvific will.

  • 1 Corinthians 15:58 – Our work matters under God’s reign.


Discussion Questions

  1. How does knowing God is sovereign bring you peace during trials?

  2. What are some unbiblical views of God’s control that lead to fear or passivity?

  3. How does the Reformed Arminian understanding of sovereignty differ from fatalism or strict determinism?


Testimony Spotlight – Augustine of Hippo

Augustine’s early life was marked by rebellion and lust until God’s grace intervened. Looking back, Augustine said, “I could not seek You unless You had first sought me.” While he strongly affirmed God’s sovereign grace, Augustine also recognized that God brought him to the point of willing surrender, not by force, but by making Christ irresistibly beautiful to his heart.


Application Challenge for the Week

Each day, write down one area of life where you’re tempted to think “God isn’t in control.” Pray over it, submitting it to His sovereign will, and ask Him for grace to act faithfully while trusting His purposes.



Investigating Ellen G. White #1: "Isang Propeta sa Gitna ng mga Propeta?"

Note: Ang blog series na ito ay simplified version ng mga core ideas mula sa librong White Out: An Investigation of Ellen G. White ni Dirk Anderson. Bagamat sariling salita at pagkakasulat ko ang gamit dito, ang mga historical facts at theological insights ay base sa malalim na research ni Anderson. Layunin ko lang ipresenta ang mga findings na ito sa paraang mas madali maintindihan at mapag-isipan ng marami.


Bago siya kinilalang "Spirit of Prophecy" ng milyon-milyong Adventist sa buong mundo, si Ellen Harmon ay isa lang mahinang batang babae—13 taong gulang, may pinagdadaanan, at walang katiyakan ang kinabukasan.

Ang storya niya ay nagsimula sa literal na sakit. Nine years old pa lang si Ellen nang may batang kaklase siyang humampas ng bato sa kanyang mukha—isang tragic na insidenteng nag-iwan ng matinding pinsala sa kanyang utak. Grabe ang tama—hindi na siya halos makapagpatuloy sa pag-aaral. Sa edad na 12, tuluyan na siyang huminto sa formal education.

Pero sa gitna ng pagkawasak ng pangarap niyang makapag-aral, isang bagong interes ang tumubo sa puso niya: Bible prophecy.

1840s noon sa New England, at sobrang intense ng religious excitement. Nagliliyab ang mga towns sa preaching ni William Miller, isang dating farmer na naging Bible preacher. Ang mensahe niya? Malapit nang bumalik si Jesus—una sa 1843, tapos ni-recalculate sa October 22, 1844.

Tulad ng libu-libong iba pa, nadala ang pamilya Harmon sa tinatawag ngayon na Millerite Movement, Advent Awakening, at Midnight Cry.

Pero hindi lang si Ellen ang visionary noong panahong ’yon. In fact, parang uso talaga maging propeta sa Amerika noong early 19th century. Kung baga sa panahon ngayon, viral ang pagiging “pinili ng langit.”

Halimbawa:

  • Si Joseph Smith, founder ng Mormons, nagsasabing nakausap niya si Moroni, isang anghel. Siya ang nagtatag ng mga Latter-day Saints.

  • Sa mga Shaker communities, maraming batang babae ang bigla na lang nagkakaroon ng visions—nangangatog, natutumba, tapos nagsasalita tungkol sa mga anghel at sa langit. Kailangan pa raw silang buhatin bago sila makapagsalita ulit ng malinaw.

  • Sa loob mismo ng Millerite camp, may mga propetang masyado raw dramatic. Tulad ni John Starkweather, na assistant pastor ng Chardon Street Chapel. Yung mga “fits” niya sa harap ng congregation—na tinawag ng iba na “epileptic episodes”—eventually naging dahilan para mapatalsik siya.

Dito sa napaka-chaotic na spiritual environment na ito pumasok si Ellen Harmon. Bata pa siya, pero nahatak agad ang atensyon sa mga propetikong kaganapan.

Isa sa mga pinakaunang naging impluwensya niya ay si William Foy, isang African American preacher na nakabase sa New England. Noong 1835, naging Christian siya sa Freewill Baptist Church, at noong 1842, habang nag-aaral para maging Episcopal minister, bigla siyang nakaranas ng dalawang dramatic visions.

Nag-ikot agad si Foy sa iba’t ibang lugar para ikuwento ang nakita niya—at libo-libo ang pumunta para makinig. Ayon kay Adventist historian J.N. Loughborough:

“Having a good command of language, with fine descriptive powers, he created a sensation wherever he went… he related to thousands what had been shown him of the heavenly world.” [1]

At guess what? Isa si Ellen sa mga nakinig. Naroon siya sa Beethoven Hall sa Portland, front row pa siguro, tahimik pero alerto. Grabe raw ang pagkakalarawan ni Foy sa langit—may mga angel na lumilipad pataas-baba, dala ang “messages” para sa mga recording angels sa langit:

“I then beheld angels ascending and descending to and from the earth; they bore tidings to the recording angels.” (p.20)

Totoong-nakaka-wow 'yon para sa mga taong wala pang telepono, email, o kahit telegram. So of course, angel messengers ang logical na explanation kung paano nakakaugnay ang langit at lupa.

By 1844, kilalang propeta na si Foy sa buong Millerite movement. Kaya nang kumalat ang balita na isang batang babae, si Ellen Harmon, ay nagkaroon din ng vision, curious agad si Foy. Nakipagkita siya kay Ellen—prophet to prophet.

Wala tayong detalye ng usapan nila, pero documented na nangyari ‘yon. At hindi doon natapos ang kwento.

That very night may public meeting si Ellen para i-share ang kanyang first vision. Hindi niya alam na nandoon si Foy sa audience. Habang nagkukuwento siya, medyo kinakabahan siguro, nangyari ang nakakagulat:

Tumayo si Foy sa gitna ng meeting. Hindi na siya nakapigil. Sabi niya, “Eksakto! 'Yan din ang nakita ko!” Word for word. Detail for detail. Parang instant prophetic validation.

Ang hindi niya binanggit? Nagkita na sila ni Ellen kahapon lang. Maybe para hindi isipin ng audience na scripted ang lahat. Maybe para hindi mahiya si Ellen. O baka ayaw lang niyang overshadow-an ang bagong “visionary” sa eksena.

Pagkatapos ng meeting, tahimik siyang umalis—at wala nang nabalitang contact sa pagitan nila ever again.

Pero teka, may twist pa.

Noong 1845, pinablish ni Foy ang kanyang mga visions sa isang copyrighted pamphlet. Natuto siya ng lesson: prophetic content is intellectual property. Baka napaisip siya noong narinig niyang si Ellen ay nagsimulang magsulat ng mga sariling vision niya—at kapansin-pansing hawig sa kanya ang mga description nito ng langit.

Coincidence? Puwede. Inspiration? Maybe. Influence? Halos sigurado.

Maikli lang ang naging encounter nina Foy at Harmon, pero naging isa iyon sa pinaka-defining moments sa kasaysayan ng Adventist movement. Si Ellen, isang batang babae na noon pa lang hinuhubog na ang boses bilang propeta. Si Foy, isang seasoned visionary, parang nakita ang pag-usbong ng panibagong bituin.

Wala nang masyadong duda na iniingatan talaga ni Ellen ang kopya ng mga vision ni Foy na nasa possession niya. Malamang, sobrang na-thrill siya sa napakagandang paglalarawan ni Foy tungkol sa langit.

At kahit naka-copyright na ’yung mga iyon, ilang taon lang ang lumipas, habang sinusulat na ni Sister White ang sarili niyang mga vision, mapapansin mong halos parehas ang mga description niya ng langit sa kay Foy—as in, strikingly similar.




Matapos makita ni Foy ang kagandahan ng langit sa pamamagitan ng isang vision, inutusan siya ng kanyang anghel:

“Thy spirit must return to yonder world, and thou must reveal these things which thou hast seen...”

Marahil hindi pa niya alam noon, pero ilang taon lang ang lumipas, ang guide ni Ellen White ay nagsalita rin ng halos parehong mga salita sa kanya—parang echo ng utos na ibinigay kay Foy. 

Ayon sa Adventist historian na si J.N. Loughborough, matapos daw ang taong 1845, nagkasakit at namatay si William Foy, at dahil doon, naipasa raw ang prophetic baton kay Ellen White, na siyang pumalit at tumanggap ng tawag bilang propeta ng Adventist movement.

Pero ito ay isang classic example ng mythmaking—isa sa mga kilalang alamat na ginamit para itaguyod ang propetikong imahe ni Ellen White. At sa totoo lang, malayo ito sa katotohanan.

Hindi namatay si Foy noong 1845. Wala ring ebidensiya na tinalikuran niya ang kanyang prophetic calling. Sa katunayan, nagpatuloy siya sa ministeryo, nagpastor sa iba’t ibang Freewill Baptist churches sa Maine, at nagpatotoo para sa Panginoon hanggang sa kanyang kamatayan noong 189348 years later.

So much for the "baton passing" myth.

Ayon kay Adventist historian J.N. Loughborough, sa kanyang aklat The Great Second Advent Movement, meron daw proseso kung paano napili si Ellen Harmon bilang propeta ng Diyos. Kwento niya, unang pinili raw ng Diyos si William Foy para tumanggap ng mga vision. Pero dahil hindi raw tinupad ni Foy ang kanyang tungkulin, nagkasakit daw ito at namatay. Kaya ipinasa raw ng Diyos ang “prophetic baton” kay Hazen Foss, na siya namang tumanggap ng vision kasunod ni Foy. Ngunit nang tumanggi si Foss na ibahagi ang kanyang vision, doon na raw bumaling ang Diyos sa “pinakahina sa mga mahihina,” si Ellen Harmon.

Pero maraming problema sa version ng storyang ito. Una sa lahat, hindi totoo na namatay si Foy pagkatapos ng 1844 disappointment, gaya ng pinapalabas ni Loughborough. Nagpatuloy si Foy sa ministeryo, nagpastor sa iba’t ibang Freewill Baptist churches sa Maine, at buong buhay niyang nagpatotoo para kay Cristo hanggang sa kamatayan niya noong November 9, 1893, sa edad na 75. Makikita pa nga ang libingan niya sa Birch Tree Cemetery sa East Sullivan, Maine.

Pangalawa, may theological conflict rin na lumilitaw. Sa mga vision ni Foy (basahin sa pp. 11–12 ng kanyang booklet), binanggit niya ang buhay pagkatapos ng kamatayan, isang bagay na magiging questionable para sa maraming Adventists, dahil taliwas ito sa doktrina nilang "soul sleep."

Kaya kung susuriin, yung buong kwento ng “passing the prophetic baton”—mula kay Foy, kay Foss, hanggang kay Ellen—ay hindi lang historically inaccurate, kundi may halong myth at theological inconsistency rin.

Friday, August 8, 2025

False Signs of Conversion for Former Adventists

Leaving the SDA Church can feel like a huge relief—like taking a deep breath after years of pressure. But emotional freedom doesn’t always equal true conversion. So let’s talk about some false signs that can look like being born again but may actually just be surface-level reactions.


1. You Left Adventism and Feel Free

Leaving legalism can be part of true conversion, but just feeling "free" doesn’t always mean you’re saved. Emotional relief is real, but salvation is deeper than just escape from a system. Freedom in Christ is about the new birth, not just leaving old rules behind.


2. You Started Attending a Sunday Church

Attending a gospel-preaching church is a great step—but church attendance alone doesn’t prove conversion. You can go every Sunday and still not know Jesus personally. The question is: Have you trusted in Christ alone for your salvation?


3. You Love Debating Adventists Online

There’s nothing wrong with apologetics or correcting false doctrine. But being passionate about theology isn’t the same as being passionate about Jesus Himself. Knowledge can puff up. True conversion humbles us and drives us to love, not just win arguments.


4. You Rejected Ellen G. White

Rejecting EGW is necessary for truth, but it doesn’t mean you’ve accepted the true Gospel. Many former Adventists are still spiritually empty even though they no longer follow her writings. Don’t stop at deconstruction—move into transformation.


5. You Now Eat Bacon and Wear Jewelry

Yes, we’re free in Christ! But external things like diet, clothes, or entertainment preferences aren’t signs of salvation. True freedom is found in abiding in Christ, not just doing what Adventism prohibited.


6. You Were Baptized in a Non-SDA Church

That’s wonderful if your baptism was a sign of true faith. But if you did it just to join a new group or leave the old one, it’s not the outward ritual that saves—it’s faith in Jesus from the heart.


7. You Follow Ex-SDA Pages and Pastors

Following ministries like Former Adventists Philippines or watching testimonies can help. But being a fan of the movement is not the same as following Christ. Are you personally walking with Jesus every day?


Leaving the Seventh-day Adventist church is a big step. But walking away from Adventism doesn’t automatically mean you’ve been born again. True conversion isn’t just switching denominations or dropping old doctrines—it’s a total heart transformation that only God can do.

So, how do you know if you’ve really experienced the new birth? Here are some real-life signs to look for:

8. Signs You’re a Truly Born-Again Former Adventist


1. You Trust in Jesus Alone for Salvation

Before, you might have mixed grace with Sabbath-keeping, diet rules, or EGW’s writings. But now, your confidence is fully in Christ’s finished work on the cross. No more “Jesus + something.” Just Jesus.


2. You Have the Assurance of Eternal Life

You’re no longer living with the fear of the Investigative Judgment or wondering if you’ll make it in the end. Instead, you know—right now—that you are saved and secure in Christ (John 5:24).


3. You See the Bible with Fresh Eyes

When you read Scripture now, it’s like the lights turned on. Passages you used to avoid or misunderstand now make sense because you’re reading through the lens of the New Covenant, not old legalistic filters.


4. You Experience Freedom from Legalism

You’re not obsessed with “Do this, don’t do that” anymore. You rest in the fact that your righteousness is in Christ, not in your performance. Your obedience flows out of love and gratitude—not fear of punishment.


5. You Love Being with God’s People

You actually look forward to worshiping and fellowshipping with other believers, even if they’re from different evangelical backgrounds (Baptist, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, etc.). You don’t see them as “Babylon” anymore—you see them as your family in Christ.


6. You Show the Fruit of the Spirit

Little by little, people notice changes—love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. You may still stumble, but you’re growing in Christlike character instead of just following man-made rules.


7. You Want Others to Know Jesus

You have a desire to share the true gospel with friends still in the SDA system—not out of pride or argument, but out of love, wanting them to find the freedom you’ve found.


8. You’re Being Transformed from the Inside Out

It’s not just behavior change; it’s a heart change. You find yourself forgiving more, letting go of bitterness, and genuinely wanting to please God.


Bottom line:

If you’ve truly been born again, it will show—not just in what you believe, but in how you live and love. You’ll know it’s real because your faith is alive, your heart is free, and your hope is secure in Christ alone.

Final Thoughts

Freedom from Adventism is only step one. True conversion means:

  • Trusting in Jesus alone

  • Experiencing inner transformation

  • Growing in grace and truth

So don’t stop at leaving error—run toward the truth found in Christ. If you’ve only left Adventism but haven’t turned to Jesus as Savior, now is the time.

He is not just the way out of false religion—He is the way, the truth, and the life.

FAP Bible Study Lesson #1:"Was the Law Abolished? A Study of Hebrew Words, Jewish History, and the Role of the Ten Commandments in the New Testament"


Starting today, our website will release Bible study lessons every Friday, specifically designed for former Adventists and questioning Seventh-day Adventists. The goal of the FAP ministry is to help people understand God’s true plan of salvation and the purpose behind why He gave the law.

Intro:

A lot of Seventh-day Adventists and Torah-keeping Christians ask: If the Torah is perfect (Psalm 19:7), how did it become obsolete under the New Covenant? Why does the New Testament say Jesus fulfilled the Law? If you want to understand this deeply, let’s explore the original Hebrew terms, Jewish history, and the role of the Ten Commandments in the bigger picture.


1. Hebrew Word Study — What Does “Law” Really Mean in the Old Testament?

Torah (תּוֹרָה):
The word “Torah” doesn’t just mean “law” — it literally means “instruction” or “teaching.” Not all commands are criminal laws; some are ceremonial, sacrificial, dietary, civil, and more.

Mitzvah (מִצְוָה):
This means “commandment.” It can refer to any of the 613 laws in the Mosaic Torah.

Chok (חֹּק):
These are statutes or decrees — often without a clear explanation (like dietary laws or mixing fabrics).

Mishpat (מִשׁפָט):
These are judgments or rulings — tied to justice and legal decisions.

The point?

There isn’t just one kind of law in the Old Testament. So even if the Torah is perfect, that doesn’t mean every part of it must be kept under the New Covenant. Some parts were ceremonial and symbolic (Colossians 2:16–17).


2. Jewish History — How Did Jews View the Torah?

In Second Temple Judaism, the Torah was central to Israel’s identity. But even then, there were signs it wasn’t the final revelation.

  • Jeremiah 31:31–34 — God promises a New Covenant “not like the one” at Sinai
  • Ezekiel 36:26–27 — A new heart and Spirit will lead obedience, not the old written code.

Even rabbis in the Talmud believed the Messiah would bring clarity and a new phase of the covenant. Some even said the Messiah would be greater than Moses.

So when Jesus said, “I came to fulfill the Law,” He wasn’t opposing Moses — He was completing what the prophets had already foretold.


3. The Ten Commandments and the Torah

Here’s the big question: Are the Ten Commandments the same as the Torah?

  • Deuteronomy 4:13 — The Ten Commandments were the covenant given at Sinai.
  • Exodus 34:28 — “The words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.”

So yes, the Ten Commandments are part of the Mosaic Covenant. But that doesn’t mean they’re eternal in that form.


Jesus and the New Covenant

  • Matthew 5:17 — “I came not to abolish but to fulfill.”
  • Romans 10:4 — “Christ is the end (telos) of the law for righteousness to all who believe.”

Jesus didn’t just obey the law — He brought the old covenant system to its intended conclusion, introducing a new way of righteousness: by grace through faith.

Example:

  • Old Covenant: “Thou shalt not murder.”
  • New Covenant: “Love your enemy.”

The New Covenant goes deeper — it reflects the Spirit, not just the letter (2 Corinthians 3:6).


Conclusion: Was the Law Abolished?

It wasn’t abolished because it was bad. It was fulfilled and replaced by a better covenant (Hebrews 8:6–13). The Torah was a shadow; Christ is the substance.

  • Jeremiah 31 — New Covenant
  • Ezekiel 36 — New heart
  • Isaiah 42 — The Servant is the Covenant
  • Deuteronomy 18 — New Prophet

So if you’re a former Adventist or Torah keeper, remember:

Following Jesus isn’t rejecting the law — it’s embracing its fulfillment.
The standard is now higher: love, faith, and the Spirit.

Thursday, August 7, 2025

Is Jesus Called God in Hebrews 1:8? A Closer Look at William Barclay's View

Introduction A question often raised in biblical discussions is whether Hebrews 1:8 directly affirms the divinity of Jesus or presents Him as a mere agent of God's authority. William Barclay, a well-known New Testament scholar, proposed an alternate translation of Hebrews 1:8 that has sparked debate. In this blog, we will examine his view, explore the Greek text, and compare it to the broader context of Hebrews 1 and current scholarship.

The Verse in Question Hebrews 1:8 (ESV) reads:

"But of the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.'"

Barclay points out that the Greek phrase "ho thronos sou ho theos" can technically be translated in two ways:

  1. Vocative: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever" (traditional rendering)

  2. Nominative: "God is your throne forever and ever"

The second translation implies that God is the foundation of the king's rule, which fits the historical context of Psalm 45 (from which this verse is quoted).

Psalm 45 and Its Messianic Application Psalm 45 originally addressed a Davidic king, perhaps Solomon, in royal and exalted terms. While it could be seen as hyperbolic or ceremonial language in its original setting, the author of Hebrews, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, applies this Psalm to Jesus Christ in a way that highlights His divine nature.

Hebrews 1 is not interested in presenting Jesus as a mere human king with delegated authority. The entire chapter is building a theological case for the supremacy, deity, and eternality of Christ:

  • Hebrews 1:3 calls Jesus the "exact imprint of God's nature."

  • Hebrews 1:6 commands that all angels worship Him.

  • Hebrews 1:10-12 refers to Jesus as the eternal Creator.

In that context, it would be inconsistent to suddenly refer to Jesus as merely having a throne provided by God. Instead, the natural reading is that the Son is called God.

Grammatical and Contextual Analysis While both translations are grammatically possible, scholars overwhelmingly support the vocative case:

  • F.F. Bruce: "The rendering 'Thy throne, O God' is preferable... The deity of Christ is thus asserted with striking force." (NICNT: The Epistle to the Hebrews)

  • Craig Blomberg: "It is best to view this as the Son being directly addressed as God." (Hebrews, NIVAC)

  • D.A. Carson: "It is better to take the Greek as a vocative... affirming the deity of the Son." (Expositor's Bible Commentary)

The NET Bible also recognizes the grammatical possibility of Barclay's view but ultimately defers to the vocative case as more appropriate given the literary and theological context.

Theological Implications Barclay's reading does not necessarily deny Christ's divinity, but it can weaken the emphatic nature of the claim being made in Hebrews 1. The traditional rendering aligns better with the progression of the passage, which moves from Christ's relationship to angels, to His role in creation, and finally to His eternal reign as God.

If Hebrews 1:8 is read as "God is your throne," it interrupts the momentum of the chapter, which strongly affirms the worship-worthiness and divine identity of Jesus.

Conclusion While Barclay's alternative translation is linguistically viable, it is not contextually or theologically preferable. The flow of Hebrews 1, the inspired reapplication of Psalm 45, and the consensus of modern evangelical scholarship all support the traditional translation: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever."

This verse, far from being a linguistic puzzle, is a powerful testimony to the deity of Christ. Jesus is not merely a king under God. He is God the Son, reigning with righteousness, forever and ever.

Let us therefore, as Hebrews 1:6 says, worship Him, for He is worthy.

Ang Former Adventists Philippines bilang isang independent ministry


Ang Former Adventists Philippines (FAP) at hindi kailangang nasa ilalim ng isang local church — basta’t malinaw ang mission, statement of faith, at accountability structure ng FAP bilang isang evangelical Christian ministry.

Valid ba na magparehistro ang FAP at magkaroon ng sariling bank account?

Oo, valid at legal ito. Sa Pilipinas, maraming evangelical ministries ang nakarehistro bilang independent religious non-profit organizations sa Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Ang pagparehistro ay nagbibigay ng:

  • Legal personality (maaari na kayong pumasok sa kontrata, magkaroon ng bank account, at tumanggap ng donasyon)

  • Transparency and accountability

  • Proteksyon sa pangalan ng ministry

  • Tax benefits under BIR accreditation as a non-stock, non-profit religious entity


Importanteng Paalala:

Hindi porket hindi ka under ng isang "mother church" ay labag na sa biblical pattern. Ang mahalaga ay:

  • Nasa biblical doctrine ang ministry

  • May pastoral oversight or plurality of leadership

  • May integrity and accountability


Examples ng mga Independent Christian Ministries:

  1. Answers in Genesis – independent apologetics ministry founded by Ken Ham; not under any one church.

  2. Ligonier Ministries – founded by R.C. Sproul, supporting Reformed theology, not under a denomination.

  3. Grace to You – radio/media ministry ni John MacArthur; not the same entity as his church.

  4. Living Waters – evangelistic ministry ni Ray Comfort; independent pero partnered with various churches.

  5. The Bible Project – a non-profit animation and teaching ministry; independent and funded by supporters.

  6. Former Catholics for Christ – a ministry for ex-Roman Catholics, not under a local church but led by former Catholics themselves.

  7. Ex-Adventist Outreach Ministries (USA) – run by former SDAs, existing independently from denominational churches.


Tips kung FAP ay magiging independent:

  1. Magkaroon ng clear Statement of Faith (nakasentro sa gospel of grace, not legalism).

  2. Form a board of trustees composed of mature believers and leaders.

  3. Magparehistro sa SEC as a religious non-stock, non-profit corporation.

  4. Mag-open ng corporate bank account para transparent ang finances.

  5. Partner with other churches in discipleship and evangelism, pero hindi kailangang maging under nila.

  6. Remain doctrinally accountable through spiritual oversight or pastoral council.


Encouragement:

Ang independence ng FAP ay hindi rebellion kundi isang opportunity to reach more people with clarity—lalo na ang mga former SDAs na naghahanap ng evangelical fellowship na hindi takot magsalita ng katotohanan.

“It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.” — Galatians 5:1

Umalis Ka ba sa SDA? Katuparan ba 'yan ng Propesiya? (Debunking César Dizon’s Claim)


May mga naglalabasang claim lately na ang pag-alis ng mga dating Seventh-day Adventists (SDA) ay katuparan daw ng propesiya sa Bible. Isa na rito si César Dizon sa kanyang YouTube livestream episode. Pero totoo nga ba ito? Baka naman takot lang ito disguised as prophecy? Let’s examine it biblically and logically.


1. Walang Bible Verse na Nagsasabi na 'Pag Umalis ka sa SDA, Katuparan ng Propesiya Ka Na'

Honestly, walang kahit isang verse sa Bible na nagsasabing ang mga aalis sa SDA church ay fulfillment ng prophecy. Ang mga propesiya sa New Testament tungkol sa apostasy (pagtalikod sa pananampalataya) ay tungkol sa pagtalikod kay Cristo, hindi pag-alis sa isang denominasyon.

Ang tunay na "falling away" ay yung iiwan mo si Jesus, hindi yung iiwan mo ang isang church na nagtuturo ng law-based salvation.


2. Ang “Remnant” sa Revelation ay Hindi Iisang Denominasyon

SDA claims na sila ang “remnant church” base sa Revelation 12:17, pero maraming Bible scholars ang nagsasabi na ang remnant ay hindi exclusive sa isang religious organization. Ang tunay na remnant ay ang mga taong nananampalataya kay Cristo, mula sa lahat ng bansa, lahi, at denominasyon (Rev. 7:9).

Kaya kung sinasabi ng iba na pag-alis mo sa SDA ay pag-alis mo sa remnant — mali ‘yon. Hindi ka umaalis sa remnant kung lumalapit ka kay Cristo!


3. Hindi Automatic Apostasy ang Pag-alis sa SDA

Napakarami nang testimonies ng former SDAs (lalo na online at sa Reddit) na nagkwento kung paano sila umalis sa SDA — hindi dahil gusto nilang tumalikod kay God, kundi dahil gusto nilang makilala si Jesus apart from legalism.

May mga umalis kasi hindi nila matagpuan si Jesus sa sistema.
Hindi propesiya ‘yon — kundi awakening.


4. Prophetic Claims Need Evidence — Hindi Takot

Ang tunay na propeta ay sinusukat hindi sa dami ng followers kundi sa katotohanan ng kanyang sinabi. Ayon sa Deuteronomy 18:22:

“Kung ang sinabi ng propeta ay hindi naganap, hindi galing sa Diyos iyon. Huwag mo siyang katakutan.”

Marami sa claims ng SDA (gaya ng 1844 Investigative Judgment) ay hindi natupad, pero pinipilit pa ring gawing “present truth.” Hindi ganyan gumagana ang tunay na propesiya.


5. Fear-Based Theology ≠ Gospel of Grace

Ang theology na nagsasabing "Katuparan ng hula ang pag-alis mo" ay gumagawa lang ng guilt at fear — hindi ito good news.

Sa halip na manakot, bakit hindi natin tanungin: 

“Mas nakilala mo ba si Jesus nung umalis ka?” 

If yes, then you didn’t fall away — you stepped into grace.


Final Thoughts: Huwag Matakot Umalis Kung Kay Cristo Ka Lumalapit

  • Ang pag-alis sa SDA ay hindi automatic na rebellion kay God.

  • Ang totoong “remnant” ay mga taong kay Cristo, hindi kay EGW o sa isang denomination.

  • Ang prophecy ay base sa Biblical truth, hindi sa interpretation ng isang religious system.

  • Ang gospel ay nagdadala ng kapayapaan, hindi condemnation.


Kung umalis ka man sa SDA at lumapit kay Jesus—praise God!

You’re not fulfilling some dark prophecy.

You’re fulfilling the very heart of the gospel:

“Come to me, all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)


Former Adventists Philippines

“Freed by the Gospel. Firm in the Word.”

For more inquiries, contact us:

Email: formeradventist.ph@gmail.com

Website: formeradventistph.blogspot.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/formeradventistph

Phone: 09695143944

Why Former Adventists Shouldn’t Be Afraid to Join Other Evangelical Churches?

Leaving the Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) system isn’t just a theological shift — it’s often an emotional and cultural one, too. Many former SDAs who have come to embrace the gospel of grace still find themselves hesitant to join other evangelical churches. There’s often fear, guilt, or confusion about what comes next.

But here’s the truth:

Fear of joining other gospel-preaching churches is often a leftover of Adventist legalism and pride — not from Christ.

Let’s talk about why you don’t have to be afraid, and how you can step into real, joyful fellowship with Christ-centered churches near you.


1. The Local SDA Church Is Not the True Church

In Adventism, you’re taught that your local church is part of the “remnant.” This creates a strong emotional loyalty — but biblically, the true Church is any gathering of believers united to Christ by faith (Ephesians 4:4–6).

Your identity is not in a denomination — it’s in Jesus.


2. Fear to Leave Is a Sign of Residual Legalism

If you’re hesitant to visit a Baptist, non-denominational, or Reformed church, that fear often comes from the SDA mindset of exclusivity.

But Scripture is clear:

“Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.”— 2 Corinthians 3:17

You’re not being disloyal to God by visiting other churches. You’re stepping into the freedom of the New Covenant, where Christ is your foundation — not a religious system.


3. Nothing to Worry About: Calvinism or Dispensationalism Isn’t the Enemy

Some former SDAs get anxious when they hear that a church is Calvinist (believes in eternal security or predestination) or dispensationalist (has a different view of end times). But here’s the good news:

These are not salvation issues.

As long as a church preaches salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8–9), and affirms the authority of Scripture, you're in good company.

Whether someone believes in once saved, always saved (OSAS), or has a different take on the rapture or the millennium — that’s not what saves them or disqualifies them.

What matters is this:
✔ You are saved by grace
✔ Through faith in Jesus
✔ Not by law-keeping
✔ And you now have eternal life and assurance (John 5:24)

Don’t let secondary doctrines steal your joy or freedom.


4. You’re Not Betraying God — You’re Trusting Him More

Walking into another church isn’t a betrayal. It’s obedience to the gospel. The SDA Church taught us that all other churches are Babylon. That was fear-based control.

Jesus didn’t call you to follow a denomination. He called you to follow Him.


5. How to Overcome the Fear

  • Pray for the Spirit’s leading.

  • Start with a gospel-preaching church near you.

  • Talk to the pastor about your background.

  • Be patient — it may feel different, but that’s okay.

  • Study Galatians to renew your mind about grace.


Final Thoughts

You are part of the true Church — the Body of Christ.

You’re free to worship with other believers, even if they don’t have the same views on the Sabbath, the end times, or predestination.

What unites us is the finished work of Christ — not the day we worship, the diet we follow, or the prophetic timeline we hold.

Jesus is enough.

So go ahead — find a local church where:

  • Christ is central

  • Grace is preached

  • The Bible is opened

  • And your soul can rest

No fear. No guilt. No more chains.

You are free.
You are loved.
You belong.


Former Adventists Philippines

“Freed by the Gospel. Firm in the Word.”

For more inquiries, contact us:

Email: formeradventist.ph@gmail.com

Website: formeradventistph.blogspot.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/formeradventistph

Phone: 09695143944

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