Thursday, July 31, 2025

The Doctrinal Foundations of Former Adventists Philippines



The following doctrinal summary articulates the theological convictions of Former Adventists Philippines (FAP), rooted in Sola Scriptura, interpreted through the grammatical-historical method of hermeneutics. This method seeks to understand each passage of Scripture according to its original language, literary form, authorial intent, and historical-cultural setting. These convictions are also shaped by the theological framework of Reformed Arminianism, New Covenant Theology, and Partial Preterism.


1. The Holy Scriptures (The Bible)

We affirm that the Holy Bible is the divinely inspired, infallible, and authoritative Word of God (2 Tim. 3:16–17; 2 Pet. 1:19–21). The Greek term theopneustos (“God-breathed”) in 2 Timothy 3:16 conveys divine origin, not mere human insight. The Bible is therefore wholly trustworthy and sufficient, functioning as the supreme and final rule for faith, doctrine, and conduct (Ps. 119:105; Heb. 4:12).

The phrase “profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness” shows that Scripture is both didactic and transformative—it not only informs but reforms the believer. From Genesis to Revelation, the unified narrative reveals the gospel of salvation through Jesus Christ, providing the foundation for all Christian belief and practice (John 17:17).


2. The One True God (The Trinity)

We believe in One God (Deut. 6:4), eternal and self-existent, revealed in three distinct Persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—co-equal and co-eternal in nature, power, and glory (Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14). The Johannine prologue (John 1:1–3) affirms the deity of the Logos while maintaining personal distinction from God the Father.

The early Church, recognizing both Old and New Testament revelation, rejected modalism and tritheism, affirming the Nicene formulation that the one divine essence (ousia) subsists in three hypostases (persons). This doctrine safeguards biblical monotheism while preserving the relational distinctions seen throughout redemptive history.


3. The Work of Creation

God created all things ex nihilo (“out of nothing”) by His word and power (Gen. 1–2; Ps. 33:6, 9; Heb. 11:3). Whether the earth is young or old, the central biblical truth remains: creation is purposeful, ordered, and dependent entirely on its Creator (Col. 1:16–17; John 1:3).

Genesis 1–2, in its ancient Near Eastern literary context, presents a theological polemic against pagan cosmologies. It exalts Yahweh as sovereign Creator, establishing His ownership and Lordship over all reality.


4. The Nature of Man and the Soul

Man is created in the image of God (Gen. 1:26–27), consisting of both body and soul in a unified nature (Gen. 2:7). The body returns to dust at death (Eccl. 12:7), but the soul persists in conscious existence (Matt. 10:28; Luke 16:22–23). We reject “soul sleep” or annihilationism, affirming the intermediate state—believers are with Christ (Phil. 1:23), unbelievers face conscious separation from Him (Rev. 6:9–10).

The Hebrew and Greek terms for “soul” (nephesh, psyche) describe the whole person but also affirm a continuing personal existence beyond bodily death. This is consistent with the progressive revelation culminating in the New Testament’s teaching on resurrection and final judgment.


5. Salvation by Grace through Faith

Salvation is wholly by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8–9; Titus 3:5), grounded in Christ’s substitutionary death and resurrection (Rom. 10:9–10). From a Reformed Arminian perspective, God sovereignly initiates salvation, enabling sinners to respond, yet preserving genuine human responsibility (1 Tim. 2:3–4; John 6:37). Regeneration precedes faith, but in the Reformed Arminian thought, “regeneration precedes faith” means that God must first act to enable the sinner to believe by breaking the power of sin and restoring the capacity for faith. This enabling grace comes entirely from God, is resistible, and does not constitute the full new birth until the sinner actually believes. Faith is the God-enabled human response that results in complete regeneration. Perseverance is necessary; apostasy is possible for those who turn away from Christ (Heb. 10:39).

Paul’s contrast between grace and works (Rom. 11:6) does not negate obedience but establishes that justification rests entirely on Christ’s merit. The believer’s ongoing sanctification is Spirit-empowered, not law-enslaved.


Explanation of the Reformed Arminian (Jacob Arminius) View
  • Initial Regeneration: God sovereignly acts on the sinner’s heart, breaking sin’s total control and enabling a genuine choice. This is entirely God’s work, not man’s.

  • Faith’s Role: The sinner, now enabled, must freely respond in faith to the gospel.

  • Completion of Regeneration: Once faith is exercised, God completes the new birth, indwelling the believer with the Holy Spirit.

  • Resistibility: This pre-faith enabling can still be resisted (Acts 7:51), unlike Calvinism’s irresistible grace.




Key Verses in Arminius’ Perspective

  • John 6:44“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.”

  • Acts 16:14“The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul’s message.”

  • Ephesians 2:8–9Grace is the cause, faith is the response.

  • John 1:12–13Believing comes before becoming a child of God.


6. The Church

The Church is the body of Christ (Eph. 1:22–23), composed of all true believers across time and place (1 Cor. 12:12–13). Locally, believers gather for worship, teaching, fellowship, and the ordinances (Acts 2:42–47). The Church exists to glorify God and proclaim the gospel (Matt. 28:18–20), operating under the headship of Christ.

The New Testament distinguishes between the universal Church and local assemblies, yet both are united in mission. Local autonomy does not undermine catholic unity but expresses it contextually.


7. The Last Things and the Kingdom of Christ

We affirm the bodily, personal return of Christ (Acts 1:11; 2 Tim. 4:1). From a Partial Preterist perspective, many prophecies—especially in Matthew 24—were fulfilled in the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem (Matt. 24:34). Yet the final resurrection, judgment, and consummation of the Kingdom are future realities (1 Thess. 4:13–18; Rev. 20:11–15; 1 Cor. 15).

The “already/not yet” tension of the Kingdom recognizes Christ’s present reign (Matt. 28:18) and the future perfection of that reign at His return. This guards against both date-setting sensationalism and spiritualized denial of the future hope.


Conclusion: The Interconnected Theological Framework

These seven articles rest on four interwoven systems:


Sola Scriptura – The Bible alone is the final authority for faith and life (2 Tim. 3:16–17).

Reformed Arminianism – God’s grace is sovereign and prevenient, human responsibility is real, and perseverance is required.

New Covenant Theology – The Law of Christ replaces the Mosaic covenant while preserving moral continuity.

Partial Preterism – Christ’s reign is a present reality; prophecy is fulfilled progressively until the final consummation.

This framework is biblical, historical, and Christ-centered, fostering a gospel-driven theology that resists legalism, sensationalism, and doctrinal imbalance.

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When Ted Wilson Talks Like an Evangelical… But Still Preaches Adventism!


A Closer Look at the ex-GC President’s Appeal

You’ve probably seen it, a short reel of former SDA General Conference President Ted N. C. Wilson speaking with what sounds like heartfelt evangelical tone. He talks about looking to Jesus, preaching the gospel, and standing on God’s Word. Sounds good, right?

But here’s the problem: it’s not what it seems.

Evangelical Words, Adventist Framework

In the video, Wilson sounds just like your average non-denominational preacher. He appeals to “faith in Christ alone,” “the authority of Scripture,” and the urgency of sharing the gospel.

But the gospel he’s talking about isn’t the biblical gospel of grace alone. It’s the Adventist gospel a gospel that still hinges on investigative judgment, Sabbath as seal of salvation, and obedience to the law as part of the final test.

“Scripture alone,” he says.
But what he means is: Scripture interpreted through Ellen White.

 

The Real Evangelical Gospel vs. Adventism

Let’s not be confused. The true biblical gospel is Jesus + nothing. Not Jesus + Ellen White. Not Jesus + Investigative Judgment. Not Jesus + Sabbath as the seal.

Wilson’s appeal is warm and sincere sounding, but it’s a polished version of the same old framework: loyalty to the denomination, upholding Ellen White, and subtle guilt if you question the system.

He’s not wrong in saying we need revival. But real revival doesn’t happen when you wrap the same problematic teachings in prettier packaging. It happens when people repent of false gospels and come to the finished work of Christ.

Why It Matters

If you’re a former Adventist or someone questioning what you were taught growing up, this is important. These soft-spoken appeals are designed to keep you emotionally connected to a system that still holds to teachings that distort the gospel.

And if you're an evangelical Christian unfamiliar with SDA theology don’t be fooled. Wilson’s language may sound familiar, but it doesn't mean the doctrine behind it is sound.

Discernment Over Emotion

Let’s be discerning.

  • Wilson says, “Jesus is coming soon,” but the SDA system teaches that the final judgment of believers has been going on since 1844.

  • He says, “read the Bible,” but adds that the Spirit of Prophecy (Ellen White) is the “lesser light” that guides you to the Bible.

  • He says, “stand for the truth,” but never honestly addresses the false prophecies, plagiarism, and double standards that haunt Adventist history.

Let’s Talk

What did you think when you watched that video?
Did it make you feel hopeful, or did something feel… off?
Let’s talk in the comments.

We’re not here to attack people—we’re here to test teachings, expose false gospels, and point people to the real Jesus—who finished the work on the cross, who doesn’t need Ellen White to explain what He meant, and who offers full assurance today—not after a 180-year heavenly investigation.


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Did Ellen White Plagiarize? And Does It Matter? Responding to SDA Justifications About Her Use of Sources



Many sincere Seventh-day Adventists today will admit that Ellen White borrowed heavily from other 19th-century Christian writers. But they often say things like:

"She didn’t know it was plagiarism."
"She just took notes and wrote in her own voice."
"James White should’ve taught her better."
"Plagiarism laws were different in the U.S. than in England."
"Even the Gospel writers copied each other and didn’t cite sources."

Let’s break these down honestly, while also remembering that Ellen White isn’t just seen as a Christian author—she is considered a prophet, messenger, and source of truth equal to Scripture in the SDA Church (Fundamental Belief #18).


1. “Plagiarism Laws Were Different in the U.S.”

Some Adventists say that plagiarism, especially in the 1800s, wasn’t illegal in the U.S. the way it was in England. And that’s partly true — U.S. copyright law in Ellen White’s time wasn’t as strict as modern laws, and some borrowed content could be legally reused.

But here's the key issue:

Just because something wasn’t illegal doesn’t mean it wasn’t unethical.

Biblically, God’s prophets were not evaluated based on civil laws but on God’s moral standards and truthfulness.

“Behold, I am against the prophets... that steal my words everyone from his neighbor.” Jeremiah 23:30

Even if there was no lawsuit filed, Ellen White repeatedly claimed her books were not her own but were divinely inspired. That’s a much bigger issue than whether or not copyright was enforced.

Plus, in her own time, Ellen and James White actively denied she used other sources, even though they had clear knowledge of it. That’s deception.

How about Vincent Ramik?

Vincent Ramik’s name often comes up in defense of Ellen White. He was a Catholic copyright lawyer hired by the SDA General Conference in the early 1980s, and yes, he said she didn’t break any U.S. copyright laws. But here’s the thing: not breaking copyright laws doesn’t automatically mean she didn’t plagiarize—at least not in the ethical or moral sense. Copyright laws back in Ellen White’s day were way more relaxed than they are now. So even if something wasn’t “illegal,” it doesn’t mean it was honest, especially when we’re talking about someone claiming divine inspiration.

Even Ramik himself admitted that Ellen White borrowed a lot from other authors. He just argued it didn’t break the law. But borrowing huge chunks of other people’s work without credit and then claiming it came straight from God that’s what people are really questioning.

So, this isn’t just about legal stuff it’s about integrity, transparency, and whether her writings were truly unique and inspired the way she claimed. That’s why this issue keeps coming up.



2. “Even the Gospel Writers Didn’t Credit Their Sources”

Another common SDA defense is this:

“Matthew, Mark, and Luke reused material from each other without citation. So if that’s okay in the Bible, Ellen White copying other authors must be okay too.”

Here’s why that argument fails:

➤ A. The Gospel writers were guided by the Holy Spirit

The Gospels do share similar content (called the "Synoptic Problem"), but we believe—along with the historic Christian church—that the writers were:

  • Inspired by the Holy Spirit

  • Guided into all truth (John 16:13)

  • Writing with divine authority, not claiming originality

None of the Gospel writers denied their dependence or claimed, “These are all my original visions,” like Ellen White did. In fact, Luke was transparent about it:

“Many have undertaken to draw up an account... I myself have carefully investigated everything... to write an orderly account.”Luke 1:1–3

Luke admitted he used sources! Ellen White never did—until she was caught.

➤ B. Gospel similarities don’t equal plagiarism

The writers were not copying word-for-word large blocks of text like Ellen White did. There is no deception or false claim of originality in the Gospels. In contrast, Ellen White used other writers' ideas, words, and even health principles—without telling anyone—and then claimed divine authorship.

“I do not write one article in paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision.” Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 67

You can’t say, “God showed me this in vision,” if it came from someone else’s book.


3. How Was Much of Her Writing Copied?

The SDA Church’s own commissioned study by Dr. Fred Veltman found:

  • Around 31% of the sentences in The Desire of Ages were clearly dependent on other sources 
  • Some chapters were up to 90% copied 
  • She borrowed from non-Adventist Protestant, Catholic, and even health-reform authors 
  • She rarely gave credit—and usually denied using outside material

Even worse, she often changed the meaning of texts or rearranged events in Jesus’ life to fit her own theology, despite lacking any linguistic or theological training.


4. The Bigger Issue: The Cover-Up

The plagiarism itself is troubling. But even more disturbing is the decades-long cover-up:

  • Church leaders denied, minimized, or excused the evidence

  • Some early documents, letters, and source lists were destroyed

  • Many SDA members today still don’t know the extent of the copying

This wasn’t just a misunderstanding of 19th-century copyright laws—it was a willful concealment to preserve her prophetic status.


5. Why This Matters

This is not about nitpicking Ellen White's personal habits. It’s about spiritual authority.

If she’s just a helpful devotional writer, then perhaps it wouldn’t be such a big issue.

But if you’re claiming:

“Her writings are a source of truth that God has given for the remnant church...” 
“The same Spirit that inspired the Bible writers inspired her...”

...then copying, covering up, and attributing other people’s thoughts to God is not just problematic—it’s blasphemous.


Let’s Go Back to the Real Source: Scripture

“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable... that the man of God may be complete.”2 Timothy 3:16–17

“Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.”Proverbs 30:6

We don’t need Ellen White’s “lesser light” when we have the complete, sufficient, and inerrant Word of God.


Conclusion: It’s Time for Full Honesty

Ellen White was not transparent. She copied heavily, denied it, and the church defended her instead of correcting her. That’s not how prophets behave.

If you are an SDA friend reading this, I invite you to ask yourself:

Can you follow Jesus fully while holding on to a prophet who borrowed and misled—even unintentionally—about the source of her messages?

The gospel is good news, not secret knowledge delivered by a “last-day prophetess.” Jesus alone is enough.


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Tuesday, July 29, 2025

True Heir of Ellen White's Adventism: Mainstream SDA or Last Generation Theology SDA?

If you’ve been around the SDA world long enough, you’ve probably heard of something called Last Generation Theology or LGT. It’s a sector within the Adventist Church that teaches a very high, almost unreachable standard of perfection—one that says the final generation of believers must overcome all sin and perfectly obey the law before Jesus can return.

Sounds extreme? That’s because it is. But here’s what’s even more shocking: this teaching actually lines up perfectly with what Ellen G. White herself taught. And that opens up a whole can of worms for Adventists who want to defend their church as part of the Protestant body of Christ.

Let’s unpack it.


1. If Ellen G. White Were Alive Today, She Would Side with the LGT Camp

Let’s be honest. LGT didn’t just appear out of nowhere. It wasn’t a fringe teaching that popped up in the 1980s. The seeds of Last Generation Theology were planted by none other than Ellen White herself, the prophetess of the SDA Church.

Take this quote for example:

“Christ is waiting with longing desire for the manifestation of Himself in His church. When the character of Christ shall be perfectly reproduced in His people, then He will come to claim them as His own.Christ’s Object Lessons, p. 69

That’s LGT in a nutshell.

Another one:

“Those only who through faith in Christ obey all of God’s commandments will reach the condition of sinlessness in which Adam lived before his transgression.” The Review and Herald, July 14, 1904

This is what the LGT crowd is shouting from the rooftops: perfect obedience, sinless living, and character perfection are required for the Second Coming.

So don’t let anyone fool you into thinking that Ellen G. White would’ve distanced herself from LGT. She would’ve proudly stood on their side, because they’re just carrying out her original teachings to their logical conclusion.


2. If You’re Looking for the “True” Ellen White Followers, It’s the LGT Camp

Now here’s the uncomfortable truth: the most loyal followers of Ellen White in the SDA church today are the LGT crowd. They’re the ones still quoting her like Scripture. They’re the ones defending her statements about end-time perfection, investigative judgment, and sanctification-based salvation.

Meanwhile, more “progressive” or “gospel-centered” Adventists are constantly trying to reinterpret her, soften her, or outright ignore her writings. But that’s not being loyal to the spirit of Adventism. That’s just cherry-picking.

If you take her seriously and literally, you will end up in the LGT camp. That’s just the natural result.

And guess what? That’s a big problem.


3. If LGT Represents Historic Adventism, Then Adventism Is a Cult

Let’s connect the dots.

If the LGT movement is the most faithful representation of historic SDA theology, and all evidence shows that it is—then this proves something shocking: the SDA Church, at its core, is a cult.

Why?

Because their gospel isn’t the biblical gospel.

  • LGT teaches that sanctification is part of your justification, meaning, your obedience plays a role in your salvation.

  • This is the same error the Roman Catholic Church teaches, which the Protestant Reformation firmly rejected.

  • According to LGT, you are not justified by faith alone; you must become sinless through your works before Jesus returns.

That’s not Protestant. That’s anti-Protestant.

So if LGT is right, then Adventism has never been a true Christian denomination. It’s been a legalistic movement with a prophetess who added to Scripture and redefined the gospel.

And if LGT is wrong, then the foundation of Adventist theology, Ellen White herself, is wrong too.

You can’t have it both ways.


4. What Should We Do?

If you’re still in the SDA Church and confused by all the theological battles, especially this tug-of-war between “LGT Adventists” and “Gospel Adventists”, you need to step back and ask yourself:

Which one represents the real teachings of the movement?

Spoiler alert: It’s LGT.

And that means you need to run from it, not just LGT, but the whole system that makes it possible.

The SDA Church has tried to wear the label of “Christian Protestant” while keeping the core doctrines of Ellen White alive. But her writings promote a false gospel. And the LGT movement proves that her theology is dangerous, burdensome, and incompatible with biblical salvation.


Call to Action: Come Back to the Gospel

Jesus saves not because of your perfection, but because of His finished work on the cross. Justification is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alonenot by the works of the law (Romans 3:28, Ephesians 2:8-9).

If you’re a former Adventist, don’t go back.

If you’re still inside the system, get out and cling to Christ.

And if you know someone trapped in LGT theology, gently and lovingly show them the true gospel of grace the one that says Christ is enough.


Freedom from fear. Freedom from perfectionism. Freedom in Christ. That’s what the gospel is all about.


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Is Ellen White a “Lesser Light” to the Bible? Sola Scriptura or Prima Scriptura? That’s the real question.

Introduction: A Familiar Analogy with Serious Problems

Many Seventh-day Adventists defend the prophetic ministry of Ellen G. White using the popular analogy that she is a “lesser light leading to the greater light,” meaning her writings serve to guide people to better understand the Bible.

At first glance, this sounds harmless even spiritual. But when we test this claim through the lens of biblical authority, Reformation theology, and honest observation, we discover that this analogy not only undermines the sufficiency of Scripture but also betrays the very principle of Sola Scriptura that Adventists claim to uphold.

This blog is written as a sincere, respectful challenge to our SDA friends. If you truly believe in Scripture Alone, then you must honestly evaluate whether this analogy—no matter how poetic—is actually biblical.


What Is Sola Scriptura, Really?

Sola Scriptura is the historic Protestant belief that Scripture alone is the final and infallible authority in all matters of faith and practice. It does not mean we reject all other sources (such as tradition, reason, or spiritual gifts), but it means that only the Bible is God-breathed (2 Tim. 3:16–17) and uniquely authoritative.

Dr. Michael Horton defines it well:

Sola Scriptura does not mean the Bible is the only authority, but that it is the only infallible authority.Michael Horton, The Christian Faith: A Systematic Theology for Pilgrims on the Way (2011)

By contrast, the SDA Church claims to believe in Sola Scriptura while upholding Ellen White as a continuing, inspired, authoritative voice for the church.

This is the heart of the issue.


The “Lesser Light” Analogy: Poetic, But Problematic

The famous quote from Ellen White goes like this:

Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light.Ellen G. White, Review and Herald, January 20, 1903

This phrase has been used for decades to defend her prophetic gift. But here's the problem:

Nowhere in Scripture is there any precedent for a “lesser inspired light” leading to a “greater inspired light.”

  • The Bible never says that God's people need an additional prophet to help them understand what He already revealed in His Word.

  • In fact, the prophets and apostles always pointed directly to God’s Word—never to a secondary light.

This metaphor subtly introduces the idea that Scripture is not clear or sufficient, and needs a "clarifier"—in this case, Ellen White. But that violates the clarity of Scripture affirmed in texts like:

“The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.”Psalm 19:7

“Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.”Psalm 119:105

God’s Word doesn’t need a flashlight. It is already the light.


Is It Sola Scriptura or Prima Scriptura?

What most SDAs believe in practice is not Sola Scriptura, but Prima Scriptura—the idea that Scripture comes first, but other inspired authorities (like prophets or tradition) are also valid sources of truth.

This is exactly what Roman Catholicism teaches.

  • The Catholic Church holds that Scripture is the supreme source, but that Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium are equally binding.

  • In the same way, SDA leaders claim that Scripture is the highest authority, but that Ellen White’s writings are a trustworthy, inspired guide—and in practice, often serve as the final interpreter of Scripture.

In fact, former SDA theologian Dr. Desmond Ford, who was forced out of the denomination over his rejection of the 1844 doctrine, warned:

Ellen G. White has, in practice, become the infallible interpreter of the Bible for the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Desmond Ford, The Investigative Judgment: Theological Milestone or Historical Necessity?

This reality shows that the claim of “Sola Scriptura” is in name only. In function, the SDA Church treats Ellen White as an inspired and binding second authority, much like the Catholic Church treats Church Tradition.


The Bible Is Fully Sufficient

One of the clearest Scriptures that refutes the need for a "lesser light" is:

“All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching… that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”— 2 Timothy 3:16–17

Notice the word complete. Paul doesn’t say “almost complete, until another prophet comes.” The Bible alone equips us for every good work.

Even early Adventist pioneers affirmed this. For example:

“The Bible, and the Bible alone, is the rule of faith and practice.”
James White, Review and Herald, August 5, 1852

This position was eventually eroded as Ellen White’s visions and testimonies gained more influence. Today, SDA pastors are often trained with her commentary beside their Bibles—and quoting her is expected in sermons and publications.


Ellen White Often Contradicts the Bible

If Ellen White were truly a “lesser light” pointing to the greater light, we would expect her teachings to align with Scripture. But many of them conflict with the Bible:

  • 1844 Investigative Judgment — She teaches Jesus entered the Most Holy Place only in 1844 (GC 422), while Hebrews 9:12 says He entered once for all at His ascension.

  • The Scapegoat = Satan — She claims Satan bears our sins (GC 422), contradicting Leviticus 16, which shows both goats were part of atonement.

  • Jesus Had Fallen Human Nature — She writes that Jesus took on post-Fall nature (DA 49), but Hebrews 4:15 says He was without sin.

These aren’t small details. They strike at the heart of the gospel and the finished work of Christ.


Why This Matters

This is not about attacking Ellen White or mocking those who revere her. It’s about protecting the authority of Scripture and the purity of the gospel.

Once you allow a “lesser light” to have binding authority, even under the disguise of “just a guide,” you create a two-source religion. And history shows us where that leads:

  • Roman Catholicism did it with Church Tradition.

  • Mormonism did it with Joseph Smith.

  • Adventism does it with Ellen White.


Jesus, Not a Prophet, Is the Only Light We Need

Jesus said:

“I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness but will have the light of life.” John 8:12

If we have Christ as our Light, and His Word to guide us, we do not need a lesser light to explain what the Holy Spirit already reveals in Scripture.


Final Words to Our SDA Friends

Dear brothers and sisters in the SDA Church, we appeal to you with humility:

  • Examine your church’s use of Ellen White honestly.

  • Compare her teachings with the clear teaching of Scripture.

  • Ask yourself: Do we really uphold Sola Scriptura, or is Ellen White functioning as an inspired filter for our Bible reading?

God’s Word is sufficient. Let’s return to it without any additions—no matter how well-intentioned.


Suggested Resources

  • The White Lie by Walter Rea (former SDA pastor and researcher)

  • God’s Word Alone: The Authority of Scripture by Matthew Barrett

  • Truth about Seventh-day Adventism by Anthony A. Hoekema

  • Questions on Doctrine Revisited by George R. Knight (SDA scholar)

  • The Investigative Judgment and the Everlasting Gospel by Desmond Ford


Let us stand on Christ Alone, revealed in Scripture Alone, for the glory of God Alone.


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“Bro, You Just Got Hurt… Forgive and Come Back to the SDA Church”: A Personal Response from a Former 24 years SDA Apologist!


I’ve heard this line so many times already. It usually comes in different forms:

“Maybe you just got hurt.”
“Let go of the past, bro.”
“Stop being bitter.”
“Come home. The church misses you.”
“People make mistakes. Don't leave Jesus because of them.”

Let me be honest. This kind of response is exactly what the enemy wants people to believe—to make them ignore the real issue, which is doctrinal error, not personal hurt. Like what 2 Corinthians 4:4 says, “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so that they cannot see the light of the gospel…”


My Departure Was Not Because of Bitterness

I get it—when people found out I left the SDA Church after 24 years of being active, some were shocked, some were sad, others were confused, and yes—some even rejoiced, maybe thinking they finally had a chance to take my place. 

But please understand this:

I didn’t leave because of personal issues or drama.
I left because of false teachings I could no longer defend with a clear conscience.

I’ve served the SDA Church faithfully. I got baptized in 1995. I defended the faith. I gave sermons. I trained others. I studied hard. I lived the message. I wasn’t a passive Adventist—I was a passionate one.

But when the Lord opened my eyes to the gospel of grace and the doctrinal errors within Adventism, I couldn’t keep silent anymore. And to prove that I wasn’t just “hurt,” I even launched a podcast (Investigating Adventism) and continued speaking publicly—but now focused on truth, not denomination.


“Forgive Them and Come Back?”

Forgiveness is a non-issue for me. I’ve forgiven everyone who ever wronged me. That’s not the problem. True forgiveness is a choice, not a feeling. And if you’ve been a Christian long enough, you learn that pretty quickly.

But let me also say this:

Forgiveness doesn’t mean silence.
If your house is on fire, you don’t just forgive the one who started the fire—you warn others before more people get hurt.

So no—I didn’t leave because of emotional pain. I left because of truth.


“Will You Ever Come Back to the SDA Church?”

Let me be clear:

No, I’m not going back.

Why? Because the more I searched the Scriptures, the more I saw how the teachings of Ellen G. White, the Investigative Judgment, the 1844 doctrine, and even the SDA view of the law and Sabbath don’t align with the gospel of grace taught in the Bible.

Many Adventists are realizing this. In fact, thousands have already left.
I know many pastors, elders, and even laypeople who are waking up to the truth. But sadly, some stay silent due to fear of losing income, community, or reputation.

But I decided long ago that I’d rather lose everything than gamble my soul on man-made doctrines.


Jesus Said It Best

“Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”Matthew 10:28

If I really believed the SDA Church is the “remnant church,” I’d risk my life to stay in it. But now that I’ve seen the truth, how could I remain?

If I stay silent, I become complicit in deceiving others. I can’t do that.
Jesus is enough. I no longer need Ellen White. I no longer need the Old Covenant law to make me feel “secure.” I now live by grace, through faith—not by fear, guilt, or performance.


I Know Some of You Are Still Struggling Inside the Church

Maybe you’re an SDA pastor who has doubts about Ellen White.
Maybe you’re a youth who secretly doesn’t believe the church’s unique teachings anymore.
Maybe you’ve been silent because your family is all Adventist.
Maybe you’re afraid of being called a “traitor.”

I get it. I really do. It’s not easy. But Jesus also said:

“Whoever loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me… Whoever finds their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for My sake will find it.”Matthew 10:36–39

Following Jesus sometimes means losing everything to gain what really matters—the gospel of grace and eternal life.


To My SDA Friends and Loved Ones

I still love you. I still care.
My decision to leave wasn’t out of hate—it was out of conviction. And I share my story because I hope one day you’ll experience the same freedom I found in Christ.

True Christianity isn’t about church names or Sabbath-keeping.
It’s about knowing Jesus personally and being justified by faith—not by works, not by the law, and not by your performance.

Like the apostle Paul said:

“I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.”— Galatians 2:20


Final Thoughts

So, to answer that comment:

No, I didn’t leave because of hurt.
Yes, I’ve forgiven everyone.
But no, I’m not coming back to a system that teaches false hope, false gospel, and false assurance.

I’ve found freedom in Christ—and that’s not something I’ll trade for anything in the world.


In Christ,
Pastor Ronald Obidos
Founder, Former Adventists Philippines


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Monday, July 28, 2025

Jehovah’s Witnesses and Salvation: A Biblical Response


When someone knocks on your door with a copy of The Watchtower and starts talking about paradise on earth and the 144,000 going to heaven, chances are you're speaking with a Jehovah’s Witness (JW). While they use Bible-sounding language, their view of salvation—and the person of Christ—is very different from what the Bible actually teaches.

In this post, we’ll look at the Jehovah’s Witness doctrine of salvation, compare it with biblical justification by faith, and point out some of their more disturbing teachings that mark them as a cult—not just another Christian denomination.


What Jehovah’s Witnesses Teach About Salvation

Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that a person is saved by grace through faith alone in Jesus Christ. Instead, they teach that salvation is:

  1. Based on faith in Jehovah (their name for God), plus works,

  2. Dependent on loyalty to the organization, and

  3. Not guaranteed until after Armageddon.

Their official publications say:

“To receive everlasting life... you must exercise faith in Jesus, change your course of life, and get baptized. You must also be active in sharing your faith...” (What Does the Bible Really Teach? ch. 18, pp. 182–183).

In other words, your eternal life depends on obedience, preaching, baptism into their organization, and loyalty to the Watchtower Society.

That’s Not the Gospel.


What the Bible Teaches: Justification by Faith

The Bible is crystal clear that salvation is by grace, through faith—not by works.

“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” (Ephesians 2:8–9)

“Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Romans 5:1)

Even Abraham was declared righteous by faith (Romans 4:2–5). The gospel is not “do more, try harder,” but “believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31).

The difference is eternal:

JW theology says, “work hard and maybe Jehovah will remember you”,
The Bible says, “believe in Jesus and be saved”.


The 144,000 and the Great Multitude in Revelation 7

Jehovah’s Witnesses interpret the 144,000 in Revelation 7:4 as a literal number of "anointed" believers who will go to heaven, while the great multitude in Revelation 7:9 are second-class citizens destined to live on a paradise Earth.

But here’s the problem: this interpretation completely misreads the apocalyptic and symbolic nature of Revelation.

Biblical Interpretation:

  • The 144,000 represent the symbolic fullness of God’s people, described as 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes. This is not a literal number or list of physical Israelites, but a figurative way to describe the “firstfruits” of Jewish believers who were saved in the 1st century before the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.

  • The great multitude from every nation, tribe, and language represents the Gentile believers who came to faith in Christ after the gospel went out to the nations.

“These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation...” (Revelation 7:14)

This is not some future seven-year period as dispensationalists claim but refers to the tribulation and persecution of Christians during the early church era—especially under Nero and during the Jewish War (66–70 AD).

This view affirms that both groups are part of the one redeemed people of God, not separated into two different classes with different eternal destinies.


Historic Connection to Seventh-day Adventism

Not many people know that Jehovah’s Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists came from the same 19th-century apocalyptic roots. Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Watchtower movement, was heavily influenced by Adventist teachings, particularly about Christ’s invisible return and date-setting.

While SDA eventually distanced themselves from Russell’s teachings, both groups share some strange theological DNA:

  • Obsession with the end times

  • Rejection of eternal hell

  • A works-based path to salvation

  • Denial of orthodox Christian doctrine

That’s why many scholars classify both movements as restorationist sects, but JWs take it even further into cult territory.


Why Jehovah’s Witnesses Are a Cult

The word cult is serious—but accurate here. Jehovah’s Witnesses exhibit all the major marks of a religious cult:

  • Authoritarian control by the Watchtower Society

  • Rejection of historic Christian doctrine (like the Trinity, deity of Christ, bodily resurrection)

  • Shunning of ex-members, even family

  • Claim to exclusive truth and salvation

  • Twisting of Scripture using their own biased translation (the New World Translation)

They don't just interpret the Bible differently—they rewrite it, deny Jesus is God, and elevate an organization over the gospel.


The Real Good News

Salvation is not found in joining the Watchtower or counting service hours.

It's found in Jesus. The real Jesus—the eternal Son of God, crucified and risen, who offers full forgiveness and eternal life to all who trust in Him.

“To all who did receive Him, who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God.” (John 1:12)


Final Thoughts

If you’re talking to a Jehovah’s Witness, remember:

  • Be gentle but firm.

  • Emphasize grace over works.

  • Keep pointing to the real Jesus—not the reduced version in the Watchtower.

  • Pray that God would open their eyes to the truth of His Word.


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Bible Study Guide: What Does the Bible Say About Wearing Jewelry?



I. Introduction: Understanding the Issue
 

For many Christians, especially those from Seventh-day Adventist backgrounds, the question of whether it is sinful to wear jewelry has been a topic of much debate and concern. Some have been taught that any form of adornment, including wedding rings, earrings, or necklaces, is a mark of pride or worldliness. But is this what the Bible actually teaches? In this study, we will examine what Scripture truly says about jewelry, explore its historical and cultural context, and address the common objections raised by those who believe it is forbidden.


II. Biblical Principles on Adornment and the Heart 

The Bible consistently emphasizes that what matters most is the heart and one’s motives, rather than mere outward appearances.

  1. 1 Samuel 16:7 – "For the LORD sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the LORD looks on the heart."

  2. 1 Peter 3:3-4 – Peter encourages women not to make their beauty dependent only on outward adornment but rather to prioritize the inner self. He does not outright forbid jewelry.

  3. 1 Timothy 2:9-10 – Paul advises women to dress modestly and not lavishly, focusing on good deeds. The emphasis here is moderation and godly priorities, not a total ban.

  4. Proverbs 31:22 – The virtuous woman is clothed in fine linen and purple. Beauty and quality in dress are not condemned.

Key Principle:

God is more concerned with our humility, modesty, and motivations than with external things. Jewelry, like any other item, can be used with godly or ungodly intent.


III. Old Testament Examples of Jewelry Use

  1. Genesis 24:22, 30, 53 – Abraham’s servant gives Rebekah gold jewelry as a gift from Isaac.

  2. Exodus 3:22; 12:35-36 – God tells the Israelites to plunder the Egyptians of their gold and silver jewelry before the Exodus.

  3. Ezekiel 16:8-14 – God metaphorically adorns Jerusalem with jewelry as an expression of His love and covenant.

Observation: 

In these passages, jewelry is not condemned but used as a symbol of beauty, honor, and blessing.


IV. Answering SDA Arguments Against Jewelry

  1. Exodus 33:4-6 – Some cite this to say God commanded the Israelites to remove their ornaments. But this was in response to their idolatry with the golden calf (Exodus 32), showing repentance, not establishing a permanent law.

  2. 1 Timothy 2:9-10 and 1 Peter 3:3-4 – These verses are about modesty and internal character, not absolute prohibition. The Greek grammar in 1 Peter shows that the instructions are comparative, not prohibitive.

  3. Isaiah 3:16-24 – This is a judgment passage where God condemns the pride of the women of Zion, not jewelry itself. It is the haughty attitude that is judged, not the objects.

Conclusion on Objections: 

These verses, when interpreted in their context, do not forbid the wearing of jewelry. Rather, they warn against pride, vanity, and extravagance, which are issues of the heart.


V. Historical Background: Why Did Jewelry Become Controversial?

  • During the 19th-century holiness and Adventist movements, many churches, reacting to worldliness, promoted plain dress. Jewelry came to symbolize excess and pride. Over time, these cultural norms became codified in denominational rules.

  • Ellen G. White, co-founder of the SDA Church, spoke against jewelry based on her cultural context. Her writings had a powerful influence on Adventist doctrine, even if not all were based on direct biblical commands.

  • However, many Protestant denominations have moved away from legalistic bans, recognizing Christian liberty and emphasizing modesty and motive over external regulations.


VI. Summary and Application

  • The Bible does not teach that wearing jewelry is inherently sinful.

  • Adornment should be modest, respectful, and not rooted in pride or vanity.

  • Christians are free in Christ (Galatians 5:1), but we must use our freedom responsibly.

Reflection Questions:

  1. What is my motive in wearing or not wearing jewelry?

  2. Am I judging others based on outward appearance?

  3. How can I reflect Christ in my personal choices?

Memory Verse: "Whatever you do, do all to the glory of God" (1 Corinthians 10:31).


Publisher:
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Author: Pastor Ronald Obidos

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Responding to the Biblical Unitarian view of “Miltha” in John 1:1

It’s definitely fascinating to explore how early translations captured deep theological truths in different languages. The Syriac term “Miltha” indeed has rich meaning—yes, it can mean word, utterance, matter, or even manifestation or reality, depending on the context.

Now, regarding the Biblical Unitarian interpretation—that Miltha doesn't imply a divine person but only a concept or expression of God’s will—we need to look at a few key things:

  1. Even in Syriac tradition, many early Christians (including Syriac-speaking Church Fathers) did not deny the personhood or divinity of Christ. They still affirmed that the Miltha (Word) in John 1:1 was more than just a “plan” or “concept”—it was a divine person who was with God and was God, as the rest of John 1 clearly shows (especially verses 3 and 14).

  2. Grammar notes: Yes, Miltha is a feminine noun in Syriac, but grammatical gender doesn’t determine actual personhood. Just because a word is feminine doesn't mean it can't refer to a masculine person. For example, in Hebrew and Greek, we also have gendered nouns, yet they can still point to personal beings—like Ruach (Spirit) being feminine in Hebrew but clearly referring to a personal Holy Spirit.

  3. John 1:14 says, “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.” This is a clear statement that the Miltha/Logos wasn’t just an idea—it became a human being, Jesus Christ. That can’t be understood as just a metaphor. The language is incarnational.

  4. Syriac lexicons, like Payne Smith and Brockelmann, even note that Miltha in John 1:1 is the divine Logos—not merely a spoken word or idea, but a divine reality that took on flesh. So, the historical Christian understanding of Miltha actually supports the belief in Christ’s divine pre-existence.

So, while I get the angle the Unitarian view is coming from—that Miltha could be seen as just God’s expression or will—that’s only a partial picture. The context of John 1 and the broader New Testament teaching point to a divine person, Jesus, not just an abstract concept.

And that’s why from the early church up to today, most Christians—whether they read John 1:1 in Greek as Logos or in Syriac as Miltha—have believed that Jesus is the eternal Word of God, not just an idea, but the living God in human form.

Here’s a comparison chart showing the similarities and nuances between the Greek term Logos and the Syriac Miltha, especially in the context of John 1:1, along with how early Christians and Church Fathers understood them:


Comparison of LOGOS (Greek) vs. MILTHA (Syriac) in John 1:1

Aspect LOGOS (Λόγος – Greek) MILTHA (ܡܶܠܬ݂ܳܐ – Syriac) Early Church Understanding
Literal Meaning Word, reason, speech, discourse Word, utterance, expression, manifestation, reality Both refer to a divine agent of creation and revelation
Grammatical Gender Masculine Noun Feminine Noun Grammatical gender does not dictate personal identity
John 1:1 Translation “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” “In the beginning was the Miltha, and the Miltha was with God, and God was the Miltha.” Both clearly state that the Word was with God and was God
John 1:14 “The Word became flesh…” “Miltha became flesh…” Implies incarnation of a divine person, not just a concept
Philosophical Background Influenced by Greek philosophical thought (e.g., Philo) but transformed in Christian theology to mean divine person Draws from Aramaic and Hebrew context; “Miltha” implies a manifested reality, not just abstract thought Understood as God's self-expression made personal in Christ
Church Fathers Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, and Athanasius taught that Logos = preexistent Christ, co-eternal with the Father Syriac Fathers like Ephrem the Syrian affirmed Miltha as the divine Word who became incarnate Uniform belief: Jesus is the divine Logos/Miltha, not a created idea
Biblical Role Creator (John 1:3), Revealer of God (John 1:18), Incarnate Savior (John 1:14) Same roles applied to Miltha Personal, divine role – not just a metaphor or plan
Modern Error (Biblical Unitarian) Interprets Logos as merely a plan or idea in God’s mind Interprets Miltha as non-personal expression or message This minimizes the incarnation and denies the divinity of Christ

Conclusion:

  • Both Logos and Miltha refer to Jesus Christ as the divine Word of God.

  • The Unitarian interpretation that Miltha is just an abstract "idea" or "concept" goes against both the grammar and the context of John 1.

  • Whether in Greek or Syriac, the early Christians believed the Word was a divine Person, not just an impersonal force.

  • John 1:14 seals the truth: “The Word became flesh”—a real, divine person became human.

The Real Fulfillment of Daniel 8:14 Was Hanukkah—Not 1844!

 


One of the clearest examples of how Daniel 8:14 was fulfilled in history—not in some invisible event in heaven—is the story of Hanukkah. A lot of people today only associate Hanukkah with dreidels and menorahs, but its original meaning is deeply prophetic, and it’s directly tied to Daniel’s vision of the 2300 evenings and mornings.

So, what really happened? 

The Temple Was Desecrated—Just Like Daniel Said

In the 2nd century BC, a Syrian king named Antiochus IV Epiphanes rose to power under the Seleucid Empire (the Greek empire that followed after Alexander the Great). He’s the “little horn” mentioned in Daniel 8—not the Antichrist, not the Pope, and definitely not some symbolic future power.

Antiochus hated Jewish customs. He wanted everyone under his rule to adopt Greek culture and religion. So, he outlawed Jewish worship, banned circumcision, canceled the Sabbath, and worst of all, desecrated the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. He sacrificed a pig (an unclean animal) on the altar, set up a statue of Zeus, and forced the people to worship it.

That horrific act was what Daniel foresaw in his vision—when the “daily sacrifice” would be taken away and the “sanctuary” would be trampled (Daniel 8:11–13). That desecration began in 167 BC, and Daniel said it would last 2300 “evenings and mornings.” Many scholars agree this refers to 1,150 days (since sacrifices were offered twice a day)—roughly 3 years and 2 months, which fits exactly with what happened next.


The Maccabees Take a Stand

A Jewish priest named Mattathias and his five sons, including Judah Maccabee, refused to bow to Antiochus’ decrees. They launched a revolt—a grassroots resistance movement that, against all odds, defeated the powerful Seleucid army. This wasn’t just a military win—it was a spiritual victory.

By December 164 BC, the Maccabees recaptured Jerusalem, cleansed the desecrated temple, and restored proper worship. On the 25th day of Kislev, exactly three years after the defilement began, they held a massive dedication ceremony. This became the first Hanukkah, which literally means “dedication.”

Josephus, the Jewish historian, describes it like this:

“They lighted the lights that were on the menorah… they offered whole burnt offerings upon the new altar… and celebrated the festival of the restoration of the sacrifices of the Temple for eight days… rejoicing in their regained freedom to worship.” (Antiquities 12.7.6–7)

He even explicitly says this fulfilled Daniel’s prophecy:

“The desolation of the Temple came about in accordance with the prophecy of Daniel… for he had revealed that the Macedonians would destroy it.”

That’s it. Fulfillment in full view. Real temple. Real desecration. Real cleansing. Exactly what Daniel said would happen.


Why Hanukkah Really Matters for Understanding Daniel

Most people today think of Hanukkah as a “Festival of Lights,” but that label actually came from Josephus, not the Bible. The original name was simply “Dedication,” and it’s even mentioned in John 10:22, where it says:

“Then came the Festival of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter, and Jesus was in the temple courts…”

Jesus Himself observed Hanukkah—not as a cultural holiday, but as a commemoration of a prophetic, historical event that fulfilled Daniel 8:14. He was literally standing in the very temple that had once been defiled, now restored.

That’s the exact context Daniel 8:14 speaks of. And it was already done and fulfilled hundreds of years before Jesus walked the earth.


What About the Lights and the Oil Miracle?

You might’ve heard the popular Hanukkah story of the oil lasting eight days—but that tradition came later, during the Talmudic period. The Books of the Maccabees and Josephus never mention that story. For them, the real “miracle” was that the Jews were even able to worship God freely again.

Josephus called it the “Festival of Lights” not because of oil, but because, as he put it:

“The right to worship was hidden in darkness and now brought to light.”

It wasn’t about candles—it was about liberty and restoration. Worship that had been suppressed under Antiochus was now shining brightly again in the temple. That’s why they celebrated for eight days.


So How Does This All Connect to Daniel 8:14?

Daniel 8:14 says:

“Unto 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary shall be cleansed.”

There’s no mention of:

  • A heavenly temple

  • An investigative judgment

  • Jesus switching compartments in heaven

  • 1844

  • Or a symbolic, invisible event

It’s all about the literal temple in Jerusalem being defiled and then restored.

The 2300 evenings and mornings began when the sacrifices were halted, and the temple desecrated by Antiochus. They ended when the Maccabees rededicated it, cleansed it, and brought back proper worship. The timeline fits. The history fits. The prophecy fits.


SDA's 1844 Interpretation Is Not Just Wrong—It Ignores History

Instead of accepting this clear historical fulfillment, the SDA church stretched the 2300 days into 2300 years, beginning in 457 BC (a totally unrelated date about rebuilding Jerusalem), and landing on 1844.

But nothing happened to the temple in 1844. In fact, there was no temple at that time. It had been destroyed in 70 AD.

So they claimed something invisible happened in heaven. They invented the idea that Jesus moved from one heavenly room to another to begin an Investigative Judgment—even though Daniel 8 says nothing about it, and no New Testament writer ever mentions such a thing.

It’s a classic example of forcing a doctrine onto a text rather than letting the text speak for itself.


The Bottom Line: Daniel 8:14 Was Fulfilled at Hanukkah

  • Daniel’s prophecy was fulfilled exactly as he said—in real time, in real history.

  • The Maccabean revolt and the rededication of the temple were the literal cleansing of the sanctuary.

  • This event is still remembered today as Hanukkah, a celebration of religious freedom and God’s faithfulness.

  • Jesus Himself recognized the holiday—and its significance.

  • There’s no reason to drag the prophecy into 1844 or fabricate a doctrine to explain a failed prediction.

If anything, Hanukkah should remind us that God’s word comes true exactly as He said it would—not through secret reinterpretations centuries later, but in plain view, in real history.

Let Daniel speak for Daniel. Let history confirm prophecy. And let’s leave 1844 where it belongs—in the past, with all the other failed interpretations.

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