PODCAST: AUGUST 16, 2026 PART 3:
Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of the Investigating Adventism Live Q&A Podcast
If you grew up in or around the Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) Church, you’ve probably heard this doctrine presented as a settled fact: the slain goat on the Day of Atonement represents Jesus, while the live goat, the scapegoat, or Azazel, represents Satan
Tonight, we are placing this doctrine under the microscope of scripture, logic, and history
Let's jump straight into our first live Q&A segment
The Official Adventist Doctrine and Ellen G. White's Claims
Question#1: What exactly does the Seventh-day Adventist Church teach about the scapegoat, and where does this belief originate?
Response: To understand why Adventists hold so tightly to this doctrine, you have to look at their prophetess, Ellen G. White
In her cornerstone book, The Great Controversy, Ellen White wrote:
"It was seen, also, that while the sin offering pointed to Christ as a sacrifice, and the high priest represented Christ as a mediator, the scapegoat typified Satan, the author of sin, upon whom the sins of the truly penitent will finally be placed. When the high priest, by virtue of the blood of the sin offering, removed the sins from the sanctuary, he placed them upon the scapegoat. When Christ, by virtue of His own blood, removes the sins of His people from the heavenly sanctuary at the close of His ministration, He will place them upon Satan, who, in the execution of the judgment, must bear the final penalty." (The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan, p.422)
She repeated this teaching consistently throughout her ministry
"As the priest, in removing the sins from the sanctuary, confessed them upon the head of the scapegoat, so Christ will place all these sins upon Satan, the originator and instigator of sin. The scapegoat, bearing the sins of Israel, was sent a
way 'into a land not inhabited'; so Satan, bearing the guilt of all the sins which he has caused God's people to commit, will be for a thousand years confined to the earth, which will then be desolate, without inhabitant, and he will at last suffer the full penalty o f sin in the fires that shall destroy all the w icked." ( The Faith I Live By, 1958 (Devotional compilation of Ellen G. White writings), p. 211)
"When the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord, then the sins of the repentant soul who has received the grace of Christ and has overcome through the blood of the Lamb, will be blotted out from the records of heaven, and placed upon Satan, the scapegoat, the originator of sin, and be remembered no more against him forever." (Signs of the Times, May 16, 1895, "The Sanctuary and the Judgment" (Paragraph 4)
This isn't a fringe view within Adventism; it is official, standard SDA dogma taught from primary Sabbath Schools all the way up to university seminaries
"A careful examination of Leviticus 16 reveals that Azazel represents Satan, not Christ, as some have thought. The arguments supporting this interpretation are: “(1) the scapegoat was not slain as a sacrifice and thus could not be used as a means of bringing forgiveness. For ‘without shedding of blood is no remission’ (Heb. 9:22); (2) the sanctuary was entirely cleansed by the blood of the Lord’s goat before the scapegoat was introduced into the ritual (Lev. 16:20); (3) the passage treats the scapegoat as a personal being who is the opposite of, and opposed to, God (Leviticus 16:8 reads literally, ‘One to Yahweh and the other to Azazel’). Therefore, in the setting of the sanctuary parable, it is more consistent to see the Lord’s goat as a symbol of Christ and the scapegoat, Azazel, as a symbol of Satan.” ( Seventh-Day Adventist Believe, 3rd edition, p. 468)
So, according to official Adventism, Satan is their scapegoat and ultimate sin-bearer
Dismantling the Three Core Adventist Arguments
Question#2: How do Adventist scholars defend making Satan the scapegoat, and why do their arguments fail?
Response: In Seventh-day Adventists Believe, the church puts forward three main arguments to justify making Satan the scapegoat
Let's break down all three arguments and show why they fall apart under basic biblical examination:
SDA Argument 1: The scapegoat was not slain as a blood sacrifice, so under Hebrews 9:22 ("without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness"), it could not bring forgiveness.
The Biblical Rebuttal: This argument completely misses the point of the ritual. .. The scapegoat's purpose wasn't to grant forgiveness through death, but to physically or symbolically remove sin from the community . . The removal of sin was an equally necessary aspect of the one single sin offering that both goats made together . . You cannot separate the two goats, they worked as a unit. .
The Biblical Rebuttal: This is classical theological sleight-of-hand. The scapegoat was part of the ritual from the very beginning! Leviticus 16:5 explicitly states: "And he shall take from the congregation of the people of Israel two male goats for a sin offering." Notice that God says two goats for a sin offering, singular! The timing of when the second goat carried out its specific function is irrelevant. They were a pair making one single atonement. One goat fulfilled the role of dying; the second fulfilled the role of bearing away sin. They are literally two equal, necessary sides of the exact same coin.
SDA Argument 3: Leviticus 16 treats the scapegoat as a personal being who stands in direct opposition to Yahweh.
The Biblical Rebuttal: On page 778 of The Seventh-Day Adventist Bible Commentary, Adventists try to dodge the logical trap by claiming that placing sins on Satan doesn't mean he atones for believers, he's just bearing responsibility for the sins he caused them to commit. But there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that says God will place saved people's sins onto Satan because he instigated them!
They’re using that word 'accommodated' to keep Satan far away from Jesus’ actual redemptive blood sacrifice. They're basically trying to justify that it doesn't make Satan a savior, he’s just the one taking the blame and bearing the punishment for those sins in the end.
"The other goat, representing Azazel, was to be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement. Then it was to be sent away into the desert to carry away the sins of the people."
The text literally says the live goat is presented before the Lord to make atonement. Leviticus 16:29–30 reiterates that on this day, atonement is made to cleanse the people from all their sins.
“This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: On the tenth day of the seventh month you must deny yourselves and not do any work, whether native-born or a foreigner residing among you, because on this day atonement will be made for you, to cleanse you. Then, before the LORD, you will be clean from all your sins." Leviticus 16:29-30(NIV)
First-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus confirmed the ancient Jewish understanding, writing that the live goat was sent out into the wilderness "to be an expiation for the sins of the whole multitude" (Antiquities, Book 3, 10:3)
"According to the sages, the goat dispatched to Azazel as part of the Temple ritual on the Day of Atonement atones for all transgressions (Shev. 1:6), whereas after the destruction of the Temple, the Day itself atones (Sifra, Aharei Mo
It is an indisputable biblical and historical fact that the scapegoat made atonement
The Levitical Requirement of Perfection ("Without Blemish")
Question#3: What does the Old Testament sacrificial law require regarding animals used in sanctuary rituals, and how does this completely disqualify Satan?
Response: This is perhaps the simplest, most undeniable argument in the entire debate
Look at the instructions God gave Moses throughout the Torah:
- Leviticus 1:2–3, 10: Burnt offerings from herds or sheep/goats had to be male "without blemish."
- Leviticus 3:1, 6: Peace offerings had to be "without blemish."
- Leviticus 4:3, 23, 27–28, 32: Sin offerings for priests, rulers, commoners, or lambs had to be "without blemish."
- Leviticus 5:15, 18 & 6:6: Trespass offerings required a ram "without blemish."
- Leviticus 9:2–3: Inaugural offerings required calves, rams, and goats "without blemish."
- Leviticus 14:10: Cleansing ceremonies for lepers required lambs "without blemish."
God was so meticulous about this that in Leviticus 22:20–25, He explicitly commanded that no animal that was blind, disabled, mutilated, scabby, bruised, crushed, torn, or cut could ever be offered to the Lord
"Present as an aroma pleasing to the LORD a burnt offering of one young bull, one ram and seven male lambs a year old, all without defect." Numbers 29:8(NIV)
Why was God so strict about physical perfection? Because every single animal involved in the sanctuary system pointed forward to the flawless, immaculate, spotless sacrifice of Jesus Christ (1 Peter 1:18–19).
"For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect." 1 Peter 1:17-19(NIV)
Now, think about the logical absurdity of the Adventist position
Even more damning: Leviticus 16:8 says that lots were cast over the two goats to determine which would be slain and which would be sent away
If one goat represents Satan and the other represents Christ, it logically means:
- Satan is spotless and perfect
. - Satan was qualified to die for our sins on the altar!
- Christ could have been the goat chosen to be banished as Azazel!
The idea that Satan was spotless or could die for our sins is blasphemous and heretical
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Biblical Precedents of Two Animals in One Sin Offering
Question#4: Adventists claim that having two goats proves one must be Christ and the other Satan. Does the Bible ever use two animals for a single offering elsewhere?
Response: Yes, absolutely. Adventists make a massive, unwarranted assumption that two animals equal two antagonistic beings (Christ vs. Satan). But using two animals to represent two different angles of a single offering is a well-established practice in Scripture
Look at Leviticus 5:6–10
Scriptural Proof That Jesus Is Our True Scapegoat
Question#5: Where does the Bible explicitly show that Jesus, not Satan, is the fulfillment of the scapegoat who bears our sins?
Response: When you read Leviticus 16:20–22, you see a breathtaking prophetic picture of Jesus Christ:“When Aaron has finished making atonement for the Most Holy Place, the tent of meeting and the altar, he shall bring forward the live goat. He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites, all their sins, and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the goat away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness." Leviticus 16:20-22(NIV)
Scripture is overwhelmingly clear that our sins were laid on Jesus, never on Satan:
- "He Himself bore our sicknesses, and He carried our pains..." (v. 4)
- "He was pierced because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities... and the LORD has punished Him for the iniquity of us all." (v. 5–6)
- "For He was cut off from the land of the living... yet He bore the sin of many..." (v. 8, 12)
The New Testament confirms this truth repeatedly:
- John 1:29: John the Baptist sees Jesus and cries, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"
- 1 Peter 2:24: "He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness."
- 2 Corinthians 5:21: "For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."
- 1 John 1:7: "...the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin."
- Hebrews 13:12–13: Jesus suffered outside the city gate, just as the scapegoat was sent outside the camp into the wilderness, to sanctify the people through His own blood!
"And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore." Hebrews 13:12-13(NIV)
Exposing the Revelation 20 Proof-Text Misuse
Question#6: Adventists rely heavily on Revelation 20 to claim that Satan’s millennial imprisonment fulfills the scapegoat ritual. Does Revelation 20 actually support them?
Response: Revelation 20:1–3 and 7–10 is the main proof-text Adventists twist to justify Ellen White's scapegoat doctrine. But when you compare Revelation 20 with Leviticus 16 side-by-side, the Adventist interpretation completely crumbles.
Let's look at a direct comparison table between the two passages:
- The scapegoat in Leviticus 16 is presented before the Lord, has sins confessed over it, is led out, and is released to go free in the wilderness.
- In Revelation 20, Satan is bound with a chain, thrown into a bottomless pit, and sealed in so he cannot roam free! Then, after the 1,000 years, Satan is released, gathers nations to battle against the New Jerusalem, and is thrown into the lake of fire to be tormented day and night forever and ever (v. 10).
- Notice also that Revelation 20 explicitly refutes Ellen White's claim that Satan will be "blotted from existence" or annihilated. John explicitly writes that the Devil will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Revelation 20 isn't describing a scapegoat carrying away confessed sins; it is describing the final execution of judgment on God's enemy.
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Ellen White’s Self-Contradiction
Question#7: Did Ellen White ever contradict herself on whether Jesus or Satan is the scapegoat?
Response: Prepare yourself for a shock! True to her well-documented habit of plagiarizing and failing to keep track of her statements, Ellen White directly contradicted herself and stated that Jesus is the scapegoat!“Yes, the manuscript exists. But it is an exceptional statement that should not be taken as normative for Ellen White’s overall teaching. Questions remain about whether she actually wrote it, or how it came to be microfilmed into the Estate archives in 1951. Such anomalies must be weighed carefully against the consistent thrust of her prophetic ministry.” (Alberto R. Timm, Development of Contemporary Issues Related to Ellen G. White, Ellen White Issues Symposium, Vol. 2 (2013), Andrews University Center for Adventist Research)
- Satan is morally and textually disqualified from being the scapegoat. He is not unblemished (tamin), he cannot be presented before Yahweh as a clean offering, and he plays zero role in human redemption.
- The scapegoat atones for sin. Leviticus 16:10 explicitly states the live goat makes atonement. To make Satan the scapegoat is to make Satan a co-atoning redeemer alongside Jesus, a total perversion of the Gospel.
- Jesus Christ fulfills both goats of Leviticus 16. As the slain goat, His shed blood provides propitiation and opens access to God. As the live scapegoat, He bears our sins away into the wilderness of oblivion, removing our transgressions from us as far as the east is from the west.
- The cross is complete. Jesus didn't leave the atonement unfinished, waiting for Satan to complete it during a millennium. When Jesus died on Calvary, He cried, "It is finished!" (John 19:30).
- Jesus is our substitute, our sacrifice, our mediator, and our sole sin-bearing scapegoat. We don't need Satan to finish what Jesus perfectly accomplished on the cross.

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